Automatic-manual - Page 4

Mike Noc · 31st October 2018, 13:20

It costs more in fuel to coast though - when the diesels are being driven by the gearbox the injectors turn off once a preset rpm is reached.

You can test when they are working using the radio set to long wave and tuned to a weak station. The background interference you hear is the injectors firing.

Daveluck · 31st October 2018, 13:54

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Originally Posted by Mike Noc

It costs more in fuel to coast though - when the diesels are being driven by the gearbox the injectors turn off once a preset rpm is reached.

You can test when they are working using the radio set to long wave and tuned to a weak station. The background interference you hear is the injectors firing.

Mike, surely if you are tuning in on Long Wave you mean using the wireless?

Or radiogram?

Mike Noc · 31st October 2018, 21:37

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Originally Posted by Daveluck

Mike, surely if you are tuning in on Long Wave you mean using the wireless?

Or radiogram?

Yep the Symphony wireless!

Very useful when driving down through France for catching up on The Archers on Radio 4.

Comfortably Numb · 31st October 2018, 21:59

I have got used to coasting in my Mitsubishi auto diesel, I change down with the shifter if I want engine braking. I didn't like the Audi changing down when I lifted off - I don't do that in my manual, not until it's slowed enough to need a lower gear to drive in, or unless I actually want engine braking.

mixtuurorgel · 1st November 2018, 07:51

I did'nt expect so many positive reactions for the automatic because some years ago i could drive a ZT diesel automatic; to get some power my right foot was all the time at the botom, inclusive a terrible noise of the engine..
The Rover 2.5 had a little bit the same but less noise...
In the good old days the Rover dealer had enough different cars to test the difference between manual and automatic but nowadays they have Kia's or other Korean cars and sometimes they have a Rover or ZT.
The Automatic gives a more pleasant way to drive( most reactions ) so an Automatic is a good choice, i learn on the first of novenmber...

Many Thanks for the reactions.....

carnut · 1st November 2018, 07:57

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Originally Posted by mixtuurorgel

I did'nt expect so many positive reactions for the automatic because some years ago i could drive a ZT diesel automatic; to get some power my right foot was all the time at the botom, inclusive a terrible noise of the engine..
The Rover 2.5 had a little bit the same but less noise...
In the good old days the Rover dealer had enough different cars to test the difference between manual and automatic but nowadays they have Kia's or other Korean cars and sometimes they have a Rover or ZT.
The Automatic gives a more pleasant way to drive( most reactions ) so an Automatic is a good choice, i learn on the first of novenmber...

Many Thanks for the reactions.....

Let us what you think then ,Hopefully if you got a good one and not be disappointed

mystabe · 2nd November 2018, 10:14

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Originally Posted by Dorset Bob

I suppose there are automatic gearboxes and automatics gearboxes.

The OP is referring to the Rover 75 diesel automatic.
I have one of those together with a manual V6 (which is more pleasant to drive IMHO).

I have nothing against automatic gearboxes, but I dislike the way that the Rover 75 diesel auto "coasts" when slowing down.
When SWMBO drove it first, she said that there is something wrong with it, as it keeps dropping into neutral when slowing down.

A fairly good description of how it feels.

You get used to it and have to manually select the gears more often.
I suppose it was meant to be a fuel saving feature - The V6 autos don't do it.

That's the thing I really didn't like at first as well and also when you are going down a gentle(ish) hill you usually have to manually make it change down otherwise you are just coasting. If I drive an automatic I want it to do that kind of thing itself rather then me having to use the shifter.

On the flip side after driving the car for about 6 months, in circumstances other than the above, I could pretty much get it to shift down whenever I wanted it to just by 'nudging' the accelerator - I don't mean the full pedal to the floor kickdown - and I found it fine once I had figured that out.

Sheraton · 2nd November 2018, 16:45

there have been moments when i'd have liked an Auto - Only when dealing with the traffic in the city centre tho.

where I live and the roads i drive regularly an Auto would NOT be a Good choice for me - even my Mother with arthritis and 2 Titanium Knees prefers to drive a Manual

I wouldn't trust an Auto on some of the steeper Inclines i've driven with my Car - my Brother in law once jumped out of an HGV driven by his Brother as the Auto box kept upshifting on a steep climb causing some bum clenching moments

Paul.

trikey · 2nd November 2018, 20:00

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Originally Posted by Daveluck

Mike, surely if you are tuning in on Long Wave you mean using the wireless?

Or radiogram?

Mike is trying to get the shipping forecast

marinabrian · 2nd November 2018, 20:01

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Originally Posted by trikey

Mike is trying to get the shipping forecast

Considering what he used to do for a living, that's not as strange as it sounds

Brian

31st October 2018, 13:20	#31
Mike Noc This is my second home Rover 75 CDT Manual Connoisseur SE, Rover 75 CDT Automatic Connoisseur SE & a Freelander Td4. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hampshire Posts: 11,578 Thanks: 3,470 Thanked 3,119 Times in 2,247 Posts	It costs more in fuel to coast though - when the diesels are being driven by the gearbox the injectors turn off once a preset rpm is reached. You can test when they are working using the radio set to long wave and tuned to a weak station. The background interference you hear is the injectors firing.

31st October 2018, 21:59	#34
Comfortably Numb Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Penrith Posts: 1,336 Thanks: 165 Thanked 303 Times in 241 Posts	I have got used to coasting in my Mitsubishi auto diesel, I change down with the shifter if I want engine braking. I didn't like the Audi changing down when I lifted off - I don't do that in my manual, not until it's slowed enough to need a lower gear to drive in, or unless I actually want engine braking.

1st November 2018, 07:51	#35
mixtuurorgel Regular poster Rover 75, 100th anniversery Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Deinum(the Netherlands) Posts: 47 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I did'nt expect so many positive reactions for the automatic because some years ago i could drive a ZT diesel automatic; to get some power my right foot was all the time at the botom, inclusive a terrible noise of the engine.. The Rover 2.5 had a little bit the same but less noise... In the good old days the Rover dealer had enough different cars to test the difference between manual and automatic but nowadays they have Kia's or other Korean cars and sometimes they have a Rover or ZT. The Automatic gives a more pleasant way to drive( most reactions ) so an Automatic is a good choice, i learn on the first of novenmber... Many Thanks for the reactions.....

2nd November 2018, 16:45	#38
Sheraton Posted a thing or two Rover 75 1.8t Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,377 Thanks: 384 Thanked 409 Times in 267 Posts	there have been moments when i'd have liked an Auto - Only when dealing with the traffic in the city centre tho. where I live and the roads i drive regularly an Auto would NOT be a Good choice for me - even my Mother with arthritis and 2 Titanium Knees prefers to drive a Manual I wouldn't trust an Auto on some of the steeper Inclines i've driven with my Car - my Brother in law once jumped out of an HGV driven by his Brother as the Auto box kept upshifting on a steep climb causing some bum clenching moments Paul.