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Until that time though, from the point of view of the OP, (and therefore us forumites), the lorry driver and his attitude is best thought of as an obstacle, a factor to be taken into account, rather than a target for blame. We don't know him. He isn't here. There will be thousands more like him and for all practical purposes he doesn't exist. The key to driver improvement, even when you are virtually blameless is the question "what could I have done differently that would have avoided this near miss?". Forget what they could have done differently. How can I be better? Last edited by TBennet; 17th June 2024 at 12:28.. |
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You don't have to spend full time on the roads for it to happen frequently to you. There is a notorious slip road coming from a shopping estate on the way to my fathers which i go to once a week and i would guess 30 - 40% of the times i am on the main carriageway a car just carries on pulling out into my lane even when there are cars in lane 2 giving me no where to go other than to brake sharply to avoid an accident and leaving me at risk of a vehicle behind me not reacting in time. It seems to be becoming a more common thing for entitled drivers to assume that cars on the carriageway should give way to them rather than they moderate their speed to filter into a gap. As i said this is a pet peeve for me for just this reason. I like to think i am a considerate driver and if there is clear space for me to move to lane 2 to allow a merging driver to join the carriageway i will do so without a 2nd thought however it is the responsibility of the merging vehicle to join in a manner that does not cause any vehicles on the main carriageway to have to manouvre to avoid them in any way! I can understand any driver professional or not to get annoyed and in this case possibly more so as the OP presumably slowed once he had forced his way out. Any vitriol should really be aimed at the OP.
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17th June 2024, 12:57 | #23 | |
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Just to muddy the waters a little on this, the highway code states
"You should give priority to traffic already on the motorway" note the word should and not must. As a previous regulatory inspector I can tell you this makes a massive difference. https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/join...-motorway.html Other areas of the highway code such as speed limits do in fact say "You Must" I must admit as soon as I join a slipway I am looking straight away as to where I can join as opposed to leaving it to the last min, even then options are always changing
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Have you ever driven in Kenya. It can be challenging and I have learned to always give way to coaches, mini-buses and Arctics, often they are bigger and sometimes have trouble stopping because they are on a tight schedule or they have no brakes or poor braking. I might well curse under my breath when faced with an Arctic coming at me head on. Some drivers think nothing of forcing you off the road. I wouldn’t give them fingers in case they were tooled up and wanted revenge, it’s never worth it. Above, our main highway from the coast to Uganda with thousands of trucks travelling along the road night and day. I have had 2 trucks come at me head on forcing me off the road and into the bush. Sometimes bad driving becomes expected and to survive, I have learned to drive in an assertive way, not aggressive. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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As a lorry driver it often happens that people join a fast moving road far too slowly & without any form of consideration to the situation they are entering & before you know it they stick their cruise control on 52mph & that's them set while you're forced to overtake them to continue your progress.
When l see someone pootling down the slip road at 40 l'm most reluctant to make a leeway for them.
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The difference between "Must" and "Should" makes a huge difference in regulatory affairs, but not in terms of good advice which is much of the highway code. The highway cannot really say to a driver that he must not kill himself by driving into an articulated lorry, but it can advise a driver that he/she should not as the consequences are likely to be terminal. Also, if we wish to be pedantic, nowhere does the highway code say that a driver joining a motorway "May" or "Could" assume priority over traffic on the main carriageway.
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Likewise, I consider it awfully rude and entitled of drivers to push themselves into the safe distance that I have left in front of my car and then put their brakes on because there isn't enough space in front of them. The result is that I then have to break as does the traffic behind me. A case of absolute entitlement and bad manners.
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It's also worth mentioning the pressure felt from other vehicles (including lorries) behind you on the slip road approaching at a rate of Knot's applying 'encouragement ' to join the carriageway or not.A decision that needs to be made often in a couple of hundred yards.yes I know you shouldn't be intimidated but it all adds to the tension of the situation.
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