Friend wants a 160 tune but can't justify the cost,is there anyway to get one cheap? - Page 2

RogerHeinz57 · 15th August 2015, 09:49

Shocking !
Negotiation is one thing, but really!
Phil T-4 is fully insured, he has invested time, skills and total dedication to the systems used by the T4 guys on here. They also have invested heavily in time learning and equipment.
Phil is fully insured and gives a run down of how the engine is running, and recommendations of making engines more efficient and better power delivery.
I don't know the other T4 guys really, but guess they are all good guys. We also need to consider that some run this as a business, thus giving trade skills away is non-conducive to conventional business acumen.

Not sure what type of backlash may come from this, but get ready for it as I know Brian may well come over with a small measure of sarcasm (He is good at this) I guess Phil will just chukkle to himself and the other guys, well lets wait and see.
The cost for the useable benefits is great value for money with an audience of highly satisfied members across the globe. I would re-consider your post, and maybe keep the discount view for an audience maybe at an auction room or Ebay where bidding is accepted manner of trading.

coolcat · 15th August 2015, 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn

Its not a case of can't afford!
But not willing to pay!
Its a nice thought that each T4 operator wrote all the code for the ECU but that is not true.

Most likely a T4 was picked up cheap along with an old laptop and some programme disks acquired.

You'll be all glad to know that the offer of a £50 remap has been made.
Thank you all for your concerns

Let's hope the bargain basket remap doesn't come back to bite requiring the expert knowledge of the guys on here to put it right

RogerHeinz57 · 15th August 2015, 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn

Its not a case of can't afford!
But not willing to pay!
Its a nice thought that each T4 operator wrote all the code for the ECU but that is not true.

Most likely a T4 was picked up cheap along with an old laptop and some programme disks acquired.

You'll be all glad to know that the offer of a £50 remap has been made.
Thank you all for your concerns

You need to be a bit careful here I think with this.
A huge amount of work went in to this, so you are very wrong!

There are guys selling a T4 on ebay, if you buy it for £50 you can do it yourself cant you!
No you cant.
The software has been taylor made for the m47r engine.
Good luck with a cheap remap, interested to hear how good it is, and what was recommended in as far as engine reliability and health with checks made to various components performance.

humphshumphs · 15th August 2015, 10:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn

Its a nice thought that each T4 operator wrote all the code for the ECU but that is not true.

From my readings of the forum, I believe that the 160 map was actually written by a hand-full of tech. bods on this site as MG/Rover only had a 135 map as an option.

About 18 months ago, the clutch went on my tourer when I was on holiday and I spent 2/3rds of the price I paid for the car 2 years previous. The value of the car has no part of the price of bits etc.

Would you go into a garage to have work done, then complain about what they charge to do work????

Number 6 · 15th August 2015, 10:35

Well when the "£50" remap goes boobs up???who you gonna call to get it sorted

If your mate wants to spend that sort of money Ive got a RON BOX he can have for the same money

Which was removed for a 160 remap.

FLYER · 15th August 2015, 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 6

Well when the "£50" remap goes boobs up???who you gonna call to get it sorted

If your mate wants to spend that sort of money Ive got a RON BOX he can have for the same money

Which was removed for a 160 remap.

"Who you gonna call".

stevestrat · 15th August 2015, 11:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn

Its not a case of can't afford!
But not willing to pay!
Its a nice thought that each T4 operator wrote all the code for the ECU but that is not true.

Most likely a T4 was picked up cheap along with an old laptop and some programme disks acquired.

You'll be all glad to know that the offer of a £50 remap has been made.
Thank you all for your concerns

Great way to alienate yourself from some of the club's top experts! Hope you don't need a T4 in the near future.

Shawn · 15th August 2015, 11:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevestrat

Great way to alienate yourself from some of the club's top experts! Hope you don't need a T4 in the near future.

If things are that petty then its not about camaraderie on this site but trade.

coolcat · 15th August 2015, 11:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn

If things are that petty then its not about camaraderie on this site but trade.

......and so it begins

RPWC · 15th August 2015, 11:53

I know of a T4 operator within this club,he told me how much he paid for the equipment,it was purchased from a Rover dealer after the company went bust. New it would have cost£15k, he still paid thousands for it,but as has been said,its not the cost of the equipment,its how its used.
There are likely be plenty of people who know the basics of its operation,but if something goes desperately wrong,would they be able to overcome it??
Anyone can turn a car into a brick,it takes someone who knows what they are doing to "unbrick " it.
Good luck to your friend whatever he decides,but if it goes pear shaped,I doubt there will be much offer of help from the t4 guys on here.

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Number 6 This is my second home Rover 75 tourer Club CD/Limo Tints Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Meneac Posts: 6,759 Thanks: 5,007 Thanked 1,609 Times in 869 Posts	Well when the "£50" remap goes boobs up???who you gonna call to get it sorted If your mate wants to spend that sort of money Ive got a RON BOX he can have for the same money Which was removed for a 160 remap. __________________ ] "I started out with nothing, and Ive still got most of it left!"

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RPWC This is my second home 75 model car Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 20,194 Thanks: 4,008 Thanked 5,083 Times in 3,114 Posts	I know of a T4 operator within this club,he told me how much he paid for the equipment,it was purchased from a Rover dealer after the company went bust. New it would have cost£15k, he still paid thousands for it,but as has been said,its not the cost of the equipment,its how its used. There are likely be plenty of people who know the basics of its operation,but if something goes desperately wrong,would they be able to overcome it?? Anyone can turn a car into a brick,it takes someone who knows what they are doing to "unbrick " it. Good luck to your friend whatever he decides,but if it goes pear shaped,I doubt there will be much offer of help from the t4 guys on here. __________________ Cheers. Rich…

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RogerHeinz57 I really should get out more....... A Reasonably Priced Car Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Burton Latimer Posts: 2,530 Thanks: 408 Thanked 1,064 Times in 712 Posts	Shocking ! Negotiation is one thing, but really! Phil T-4 is fully insured, he has invested time, skills and total dedication to the systems used by the T4 guys on here. They also have invested heavily in time learning and equipment. Phil is fully insured and gives a run down of how the engine is running, and recommendations of making engines more efficient and better power delivery. I don't know the other T4 guys really, but guess they are all good guys. We also need to consider that some run this as a business, thus giving trade skills away is non-conducive to conventional business acumen. Not sure what type of backlash may come from this, but get ready for it as I know Brian may well come over with a small measure of sarcasm (He is good at this) I guess Phil will just chukkle to himself and the other guys, well lets wait and see. The cost for the useable benefits is great value for money with an audience of highly satisfied members across the globe. I would re-consider your post, and maybe keep the discount view for an audience maybe at an auction room or Ebay where bidding is accepted manner of trading.