Anybody want a cheap Rover 75 ? - Page 2

tidus72 · 25th February 2016, 04:59

The thing is I got so fed up with texting him I rang his mobile number and his wife answered and she was as nice as pie

In her words,"its a shame he loves the car"

I even offered to take a look at it and even give them some money towards the cost of getting it fixed (within reason) as I know plugs are not the issue, nor is the cat, nor is the fuel pump ................

All I got off him was, "want my money back"

He is coming to see me a 4 pm today for his "refund" so will let you guys know the out come later

Looks like an ebay relist is on its way

Be great if I could sell it for more money, maybe its on omen

kc13661 · 25th February 2016, 05:25

A shame you did not have access to a T4 Guru to be present when he arrives, let the Correct software do the talking.

I would still be inclined to say No !

At least I would calculate the 'hire charge' so he has not had free travel, also deduct the cost of sellers fees and re-listing fees otherwise he has taken you for a mug and you're out of pocket

: shrug:

RPWC · 25th February 2016, 06:43

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Originally Posted by kc13661

A shame you did not have access to a T4 Guru to be present when he arrives, let the Correct software do the talking.

I would still be inclined to say No !

At least I would calculate the 'hire charge' so he has not had free travel, also deduct the cost of sellers fees and re-listing fees otherwise he has taken you for a mug and you're out of pocket

: shrug:

I agree, I know it's easy for us to say, but the car is sold as seen and tested. He has had it for two weeks now, and it's too,late to come back and demand refunds. You have no obligation whatsoever to take the car back. Whatever price you sold the car for, as Keith says, deduct at least £100 ,possibly more , for your inconvenience,and for the miles he has added to it and you don't know how he has treated it. I know how you feel, as something similar happened to me once. The bloke who bought my car came back to me two days later deme ding his money back for the car or £100 for a new engine, I gave him £50 towards the engine, stating he had knocked me down on the original price of the car.

Avulon · 25th February 2016, 06:46

Do not even consider taking the car back and refunding him. He bought the car privately - with the as usual 'Sold as Seen' I assume. You can tell him his so called mechanic friend doesn't know his back-side from his elbow: fault codes don't mean squat unless you know when they were recorded. All codes should be cleared, the car ran/used and then the codes re-checked. (but I think you already have).

If I were the seller in this situation I'd tell him to leave me alone and not call, phone, text email or whatever me again - about anything - and that if he does I'd consider it harassment and report it as such to the police. I'd advise you to do the same.

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As he knows where I live and work I feel I have no option but to refund him

Really sounds as if you feel intimidated by him - in which case definately report his harassment and tell him you have. Get a friend or two round for when he shows up this afternoon to back you up. (or your local CSPO if you have one). If he threatens anything more than legal action remind him that you also know where he lives (you did get his address to fill in the v5?). Sounds confrontational I know - but sometimes there's little choice. A less confrontational option is to make sure there's no-one home when he comes round...

arnosvale65 · 25th February 2016, 07:12

Sorry Tidus but I feel you are being a bit naive about this.
He has added another owner to the V5C which means that if you try to sell it again the prospective buyer will want to know why it is now back in your possession as I would.
He is just trying it on. He obviously doesn't like the car or it could be for the reason KC said.
His wife could have been told what to say if you rang. Begs the question of how much he paid for it.
He has no rights whatsoever to return the car especially after two weeks. He could have swapped the engine and gearbox and any number of parts.
Tell him that if he really has a gripe about the car he should produce an independent RAC/AA inspection report and then tell him the old adage, "buyer beware"
Some people are just awkward and think they can browbeat others into doing what they want them to.

stevenicks · 25th February 2016, 07:12

If you have a mobile phone you can discreetly record any conversation and should he threaten you in any way then you have the evidence.

arnosvale65 · 25th February 2016, 07:16

Sorry to post again but I have just re read your post.

"I sold my Rover 75 1.8t a couple of weeks ago and it was in fine fettle, the new owner messages me today saying he has taken it to the garage and his mechanic mate has plugged it into a diagnostic and come up with, engine miss fire, cat converter fault, fuel pump fault, oil temp sender fault, heater matrix is knackered and a couple of other things, and it needs new plugs, leads and coil packs ! he has only had it 2 weeks and managed 200 miles and knackered it up, now he is demanding his money back

"

His mechanic mate??? No conflict of interest there then.

RPWC · 25th February 2016, 07:27

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Originally Posted by arnosvale65

Sorry to post again but I have just re read your post.

"I sold my Rover 75 1.8t a couple of weeks ago and it was in fine fettle, the new owner messages me today saying he has taken it to the garage and his mechanic mate has plugged it into a diagnostic and come up with, engine miss fire, cat converter fault, fuel pump fault, oil temp sender fault, heater matrix is knackered and a couple of other things, and it needs new plugs, leads and coil packs ! he has only had it 2 weeks and managed 200 miles and knackered it up, now he is demanding his money back

"

His mechanic mate??? No conflict of interest there then.

Very good point! Didn't see that first time, emphasis being the word "Mate".
Get a couple of pals round for when he arrives and tell him to sling his hook.
YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG , and have more rights than he has.

aguy · 25th February 2016, 08:32

I think you are being generous to a fault. I'd ring trading standards and get to know exactly what the legal obligations are.
He wouldn't be getting his money back without one hell of a fight if it was me.

Once a car has been driven a couple of weeks I think you will find all your obligations in a private sale are waved. He should have had diagnostics done BEFORE he bought the car.

clf · 25th February 2016, 09:27

Another consideration that has been mentioned. You are now going to have a car with someone's name on the v5 for only 2 weeks. That could put a prospective buyer off. It would certainly make me ask questions.

I fear his 'mate' has said something or shown him cheaper ones. If you do reconsider, phone him to tell him now to waste his journey.

Perhaps you have a mechanic mate yourself that could be there with you to verify his claims?

If this had have happened when I bought my zt, there would have been no chance. As the money from my old car was spent the following day on the zt.

Whatever happens, please be careful, and good luck.

25th February 2016, 05:25	#12
kc13661 I really should get out more....... Freelander Td4 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Gateshead Posts: 2,332 Thanks: 704 Thanked 909 Times in 419 Posts	A shame you did not have access to a T4 Guru to be present when he arrives, let the Correct software do the talking. I would still be inclined to say No ! At least I would calculate the 'hire charge' so he has not had free travel, also deduct the cost of sellers fees and re-listing fees otherwise he has taken you for a mug and you're out of pocket : shrug: __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------- Growing old is compulsory.... Growing up is Optional

25th February 2016, 07:12	#15
arnosvale65 Posted a thing or two 75 facelift CDTi Connie SE Tourer. MGF 1.8 VVC Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: bristol Posts: 1,424 Thanks: 176 Thanked 176 Times in 119 Posts	Sorry Tidus but I feel you are being a bit naive about this. He has added another owner to the V5C which means that if you try to sell it again the prospective buyer will want to know why it is now back in your possession as I would. He is just trying it on. He obviously doesn't like the car or it could be for the reason KC said. His wife could have been told what to say if you rang. Begs the question of how much he paid for it. He has no rights whatsoever to return the car especially after two weeks. He could have swapped the engine and gearbox and any number of parts. Tell him that if he really has a gripe about the car he should produce an independent RAC/AA inspection report and then tell him the old adage, "buyer beware" Some people are just awkward and think they can browbeat others into doing what they want them to. __________________ Onwards and upwards. MGZT-T MK1 front and rear ends fitted, specialist- components in line thermostat mod done, retro fitted cruise control, Mk1 real wood dash fitted, real walnut steering wheel fitted, Pioneer DAB radio fitted.

25th February 2016, 07:12	#16
stevenicks This is my second home MG ZT 180 Auto / Rover 75 2.0 Diesel Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Brecon. Posts: 7,465 Thanks: 3,297 Thanked 1,666 Times in 1,264 Posts	If you have a mobile phone you can discreetly record any conversation and should he threaten you in any way then you have the evidence. __________________ "You're Not Laughing Now Are You?" Steve

25th February 2016, 07:16	#17
arnosvale65 Posted a thing or two 75 facelift CDTi Connie SE Tourer. MGF 1.8 VVC Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: bristol Posts: 1,424 Thanks: 176 Thanked 176 Times in 119 Posts	Sorry to post again but I have just re read your post. "I sold my Rover 75 1.8t a couple of weeks ago and it was in fine fettle, the new owner messages me today saying he has taken it to the garage and his mechanic mate has plugged it into a diagnostic and come up with, engine miss fire, cat converter fault, fuel pump fault, oil temp sender fault, heater matrix is knackered and a couple of other things, and it needs new plugs, leads and coil packs ! he has only had it 2 weeks and managed 200 miles and knackered it up, now he is demanding his money back " His mechanic mate??? No conflict of interest there then. __________________ Onwards and upwards. MGZT-T MK1 front and rear ends fitted, specialist- components in line thermostat mod done, retro fitted cruise control, Mk1 real wood dash fitted, real walnut steering wheel fitted, Pioneer DAB radio fitted.

25th February 2016, 08:32	#19
aguy I really should get out more....... Rover 75 Connoisseur SE 2.5 V6 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: CLEETHORPES Posts: 2,108 Thanks: 833 Thanked 748 Times in 511 Posts	I think you are being generous to a fault. I'd ring trading standards and get to know exactly what the legal obligations are. He wouldn't be getting his money back without one hell of a fight if it was me. Once a car has been driven a couple of weeks I think you will find all your obligations in a private sale are waved. He should have had diagnostics done BEFORE he bought the car. __________________ HARRY.

25th February 2016, 04:59	#11
tidus72 Avid contributor MG6 Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 132 Thanks: 5 Thanked 21 Times in 15 Posts	The thing is I got so fed up with texting him I rang his mobile number and his wife answered and she was as nice as pie In her words,"its a shame he loves the car" I even offered to take a look at it and even give them some money towards the cost of getting it fixed (within reason) as I know plugs are not the issue, nor is the cat, nor is the fuel pump ................ All I got off him was, "want my money back" He is coming to see me a 4 pm today for his "refund" so will let you guys know the out come later Looks like an ebay relist is on its way Be great if I could sell it for more money, maybe its on omen

25th February 2016, 09:27	#20
clf This is my second home MG ZT CDTi Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: carrick Posts: 7,859 Thanks: 3,494 Thanked 2,657 Times in 1,973 Posts	Another consideration that has been mentioned. You are now going to have a car with someone's name on the v5 for only 2 weeks. That could put a prospective buyer off. It would certainly make me ask questions. I fear his 'mate' has said something or shown him cheaper ones. If you do reconsider, phone him to tell him now to waste his journey. Perhaps you have a mechanic mate yourself that could be there with you to verify his claims? If this had have happened when I bought my zt, there would have been no chance. As the money from my old car was spent the following day on the zt. Whatever happens, please be careful, and good luck. __________________ It is not gloss primer .............. it is duct tape silver!