jacking up the front of the car - Page 2

Avulon · 12th May 2017, 11:59

My lowly Halfords trolley jack is rated to 2500 kilos as are the pair of axle stands; Never under a car on a jack only. That would give me the willies

macafee2 · 12th May 2017, 13:00

I would still put something under the bodywork in case the jack fails. I don't fancy a car coming down on me.

macafee2

macafee2 · 12th May 2017, 13:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by monty1

so today i needed the car on stands, thought i give the centre lift a bash, handbrake on and wheels chocked and it was a doddle, 3 minutes and it was on axle stands.

just for info the jack is a quick lift 2.5 tonne these are for 4x4's but work great on all cars

exactly where is the jack placed? can you add a second photo please?
thanks

macafee2

monty1 · 12th May 2017, 16:59

here you go

monty1 · 12th May 2017, 17:00

just to note folks i didnt work under the car without axle stands

Jim Jamieson · 13th May 2017, 00:02

I used to jack up HGV's using a trolley jack but never ever would I contemplate jacking up a car in the centre as the OP describes using a "domestic" type trolley jack nor would I use axle stands as a reliable means of support.

Even jacking up under the sill with a protector between jack and sill can have its hazards. As for supports, for decades now I have used blocks of wood, simple off cuts of roofing joists approx 12" long which can be adjusted simple by adding another block.

The OP is lucky not to have the jack collapsing under that block paving considering the pressure point applied.

Have you ever noticed driveways with blockpaving where you can see visible tracks where the car is being driven on.

I have both block paving and tarmac on my driveway and always use a metal plate under the trolley jack to spread the weight.

By the way have you noticed the driveway is on a slight slope and rear wheels rely on a good handbrake. On a 75 !

MSS · 13th May 2017, 06:18

I also use the front and rear jacking points. I have heavy-duty domestic jacks with a high-lift capability.

But, I have to say that I do not feel it safe to lift the car in one go. Instead, I put blocks of increasing height under both sills as it is lifted on the centre points. For this purpose I have a 250mmx125mm sleeper cut up into 18 inch lenghts as well as a 220mmx50mm joist board cut to the same lengths. The latter are added successsively as the car is lifted, so it could only ever fall a maximum of 50mm.

I also never go under the car with it on a jack or even axle stands - just do not wish to take the risk of a part or weld failing. The said sleeper blocks and boards are always used as the main or secondary load bearing device.

monty1 · 13th May 2017, 07:37

the jacks 2.5 tonne rated as are the axle stands, these are designed and fit for purpose, the lift point is designed for the purpose of lifting the car, i hate using the sills for lifting points as it doesnt take much for things to go wrong.i bought these for working on this

and ive had no problem and it weighs 2.7 tonne, the mg is 1.6 tonne so it lifts easy

handbrake was fully on and landrover wheel chocks were behind both tyres, bit of a slope on the driveway i agree but the car didnt move.

monty1 · 13th May 2017, 07:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by monty1

here you go

these pics were cropped i didnt go under to take them

MarkS · 13th May 2017, 12:02

The car goes up and down faster than a pair of whores' knickers now !!!

12th May 2017, 11:59	#11
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12th May 2017, 17:00	#15
monty1 Avid contributor mg zt-t deisel Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Middlesbrough Posts: 238 Thanks: 70 Thanked 42 Times in 34 Posts	just to note folks i didnt work under the car without axle stands __________________ This vehicle was the 3,275th ZT-T to run off the production line, out of 8,249 This vehicle was the 222nd ZT-T CDTi + (115) to be made out of 522 This vehicle was the 259th ZT-T in Le Mans green (code: HPD) to be made out of 440 Le Mans green ZT-Ts

13th May 2017, 00:02	#16
Jim Jamieson This is my second home Rover less ! Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Tarbolton Posts: 3,442 Thanks: 393 Thanked 888 Times in 542 Posts	I used to jack up HGV's using a trolley jack but never ever would I contemplate jacking up a car in the centre as the OP describes using a "domestic" type trolley jack nor would I use axle stands as a reliable means of support. Even jacking up under the sill with a protector between jack and sill can have its hazards. As for supports, for decades now I have used blocks of wood, simple off cuts of roofing joists approx 12" long which can be adjusted simple by adding another block. The OP is lucky not to have the jack collapsing under that block paving considering the pressure point applied. Have you ever noticed driveways with blockpaving where you can see visible tracks where the car is being driven on. I have both block paving and tarmac on my driveway and always use a metal plate under the trolley jack to spread the weight. By the way have you noticed the driveway is on a slight slope and rear wheels rely on a good handbrake. On a 75 ! Last edited by Jim Jamieson; 13th May 2017 at 00:08.. Reason: Typing error

13th May 2017, 07:37	#18
monty1 Avid contributor mg zt-t deisel Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Middlesbrough Posts: 238 Thanks: 70 Thanked 42 Times in 34 Posts	the jacks 2.5 tonne rated as are the axle stands, these are designed and fit for purpose, the lift point is designed for the purpose of lifting the car, i hate using the sills for lifting points as it doesnt take much for things to go wrong.i bought these for working on this and ive had no problem and it weighs 2.7 tonne, the mg is 1.6 tonne so it lifts easy handbrake was fully on and landrover wheel chocks were behind both tyres, bit of a slope on the driveway i agree but the car didnt move. __________________ This vehicle was the 3,275th ZT-T to run off the production line, out of 8,249 This vehicle was the 222nd ZT-T CDTi + (115) to be made out of 522 This vehicle was the 259th ZT-T in Le Mans green (code: HPD) to be made out of 440 Le Mans green ZT-Ts

12th May 2017, 13:00	#12
macafee2 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Lincoln Posts: 14,976 Thanks: 1,630 Thanked 3,032 Times in 2,181 Posts	I would still put something under the bodywork in case the jack fails. I don't fancy a car coming down on me. macafee2

13th May 2017, 06:18	#17
MSS This is my second home Rover 75CDT, Jaguar XF-S 3.0V6, V'xhall Omega V6 Estate, Twintop 1.8VVT, Astra Estate and Corsa 1.2 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7,101 Thanks: 283 Thanked 624 Times in 440 Posts	I also use the front and rear jacking points. I have heavy-duty domestic jacks with a high-lift capability. But, I have to say that I do not feel it safe to lift the car in one go. Instead, I put blocks of increasing height under both sills as it is lifted on the centre points. For this purpose I have a 250mmx125mm sleeper cut up into 18 inch lenghts as well as a 220mmx50mm joist board cut to the same lengths. The latter are added successsively as the car is lifted, so it could only ever fall a maximum of 50mm. I also never go under the car with it on a jack or even axle stands - just do not wish to take the risk of a part or weld failing. The said sleeper blocks and boards are always used as the main or secondary load bearing device.

13th May 2017, 12:02	#20
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