I'm bored....

[Ken]

Originally Posted by John Phillips

My lad had a lot of friends but since he has moved up to high school he is on his own a lot and as started to stay in when his mates call for him. He's told me that he is making new friends because he does not like what the old ones have started doing and does not want to be part of a group of people who act the way they do. I'm very proud of him.
My friends got into drugs and other types of trouble when I was John's age. I decided I preferred to go fishing and treat people with respect. It was hard and to get through high school at times difficult (luckily I was more than capable of standing up for myself).
There are a lot of good kids out there and they need the support of those in power, there seems to be precious little discipline or punishment for the idiots.

Good for your lad and its nice to see someone take a stand and not be pressured by the 'group' mentality. Congratulations on having a lad who can see the bigger picture. As I said its a small minority causing the problems but one of the estates I drive through in my job is a no go zone during the evening. There is probably around 20 or 30 that cause the trouble and on that estate there must be at least 1000 kids living there so its probably only 2% or 3% of the child population of the estate. Its a case of too soft, too late.

Ken

[JP53]

Originally Posted by Ken

Good for your lad and its nice to see someone take a stand and not be pressured by the 'group' mentality. Congratulations on having a lad who can see the bigger picture. As I said its a small minority causing the problems but one of the estates I drive through in my job is a no go zone during the evening. There is probably around 20 or 30 that cause the trouble and on that estate there must be at least 1000 kids living there so its probably only 2% or 3% of the child population of the estate. Its a case of too soft, too late.

Ken

We had some kids trowing stones at our cat and windows a couple of years ago. I chased them and after dodging a hail of missiles caught one of them. I explained to them what would happen to them and their houses if they throw stones at my house ever again. I also said I would be waiting in hiding and they would never no where or when I would be waiting, and that they at best not be out and about alone because there would be on witnesses. I told the youth that it was his lucky day and to run along and tell his mates what I had said and of course if he involved the police I would say I had never seen him before bot he could have been one of a large group who had been stoning our cat. The lad went a very pale shade of white and ran off. Never saw any of them again!

[Ken]

If anyone did that to my dog I don't think I would be so 'understanding' to just have a chat with the person.


I live on a small estate of bungalows and was told this the other day by a person living in the next road.

Three kids (14 yrs) climbed onto her porch roof and were ringing her doorbell by hanging down from the roof, they did it twice and she then heard them giggling on the roof. She called the police who came straight away and by this time the kids were on the main roof and hanging off the chimney stack. The police asked them to get down but they wouldn't, the police then told the householder that thats all they could do and they were going. When she asked what happens now then the police told her that her biggest problem is when the get down just hope that they don't hurt themselves because if they did it would be her responsibility as it was her property.

The kids did get down eventually by going from her conservatory roof to the next doors roof. The owner came out and hit one with a frying pan when they climed off his roof. Needless to say he didn't bother with the police.

Phew! getting a bit deep for a Sunday morning! :lol:

[JP53]

Originally Posted by Ken

If anyone did that to my dog I don't think I would be so 'understanding' to just have a chat with the person.


I live on a small estate of bungalows and was told this the other day by a person living in the next road.

Three kids (14 yrs) climbed onto her porch roof and were ringing her doorbell by hanging down from the roof, they did it twice and she then heard them giggling on the roof. She called the police who came straight away and by this time the kids were on the main roof and hanging off the chimney stack. The police asked them to get down but they wouldn't, the police then told the householder that thats all they could do and they were going. When she asked what happens now then the police told her that her biggest problem is when the get down just hope that they don't hurt themselves because if they did it would be her responsibility as it was her property.

The kids did get down eventually by going from her conservatory roof to the next doors roof. The owner came out and hit one with a frying pan when they climed off his roof. Needless to say he didn't bother with the police.

Phew! getting a bit deep for a Sunday morning! :lol:

The problem and cure in one post Ken
I'm with the frying pan!

[Ken]

Thread back on topic

Originally Posted by Simon D

I'm bored, so I'm going for a drive. In my car. My lovely car.

Why?


Because I can.

And its my car. My lovely car....





PS. I'll try and give an acurate 'description' of the drive when I get back...

I wonder if Simons home yet

[JP53]

Originally Posted by Ken

Thread back on topic



I wonder if Simons home yet

He has probably been climbing peoples porches

[paulmariner]

2 things I suppose;
1. I used to work for a meat delivery company driving a truck many years ago (23 years ago actually, where's the time gone?). One of my deliveries was to smithfield meat market in London and to get there for 2.00a.m. I used to leave the depot at Midnight. Pure pleasure driving down the M11 and then part of the newly opened M25. At times I could be the only vehicle on the road it seemed. Much more traffic around now and it's as busy at midnight as it used to be mid afternoon nowadays.

2. I'm a youth worker. There are bad young people out there but in my experience they usually respond to the right "handling". e.g. treat them respectfully and as equals they'll usually reciprocate the behaviour. Give them constructive tasks, let them decide the things they think are important to them and assist them reaching those goals, they develop a sense of "being involved". Unfortunately the societal habit of "knocking" all they do and focussing on the bad behaviour of a few tends to stigmatise all of them and this just "embeds" the faults of a few into the good of the many (if that makes sense). Our media loves the easy headlines and ignores loads of young people who work inside their communities doing good all the time.
But, investing in the young takes time (no easy, quick fixes for the Sun newspaper here) and a lot of money (not popular in a country with the predominant economy based on low taxes and "pile 'em high sell 'em cheap" economics). Finally, on this point, what about the parents? If there are groups of young people hanging around and being a "nuisance" in the early hours then what are the parents responsibilities? If we accept these parents see this behaviour as normal then surely this suggests they too have done the same? If that's the case then we have a problem that's 10-25 years old? So the policy of spending little and not investing in good worthwhile facilities and projects for young people has failed??

My thoughts alone and thank you for the time. I enjoy this website, keep up the good work.

pm

[Simon]

Originally Posted by John Phillips

He has probably been climbing peoples porches

:rolf:

Yes, believe it or not, I'm back. And no porch-climbing, either!

Got back around half-eleven last night and decided a small glass of whiskey and then bed was in order.

Now i'm off to the shops for that dreaed 'Christmas Shopping' kaffafel. Only got, ooh, three weeks left to get, er... Everything!

[Zeb]

Originally Posted by paulmariner

2 things I suppose;
1. I used to work for a meat delivery company driving a truck many years ago (23 years ago actually, where's the time gone?). One of my deliveries was to smithfield meat market in London and to get there for 2.00a.m. I used to leave the depot at Midnight. Pure pleasure driving down the M11 and then part of the newly opened M25. At times I could be the only vehicle on the road it seemed. Much more traffic around now and it's as busy at midnight as it used to be mid afternoon nowadays.

2. I'm a youth worker. There are bad young people out there but in my experience they usually respond to the right "handling". e.g. treat them respectfully and as equals they'll usually reciprocate the behaviour. Give them constructive tasks, let them decide the things they think are important to them and assist them reaching those goals, they develop a sense of "being involved". Unfortunately the societal habit of "knocking" all they do and focussing on the bad behaviour of a few tends to stigmatise all of them and this just "embeds" the faults of a few into the good of the many (if that makes sense). Our media loves the easy headlines and ignores loads of young people who work inside their communities doing good all the time.
But, investing in the young takes time (no easy, quick fixes for the Sun newspaper here) and a lot of money (not popular in a country with the predominant economy based on low taxes and "pile 'em high sell 'em cheap" economics). Finally, on this point, what about the parents? If there are groups of young people hanging around and being a "nuisance" in the early hours then what are the parents responsibilities? If we accept these parents see this behaviour as normal then surely this suggests they too have done the same? If that's the case then we have a problem that's 10-25 years old? So the policy of spending little and not investing in good worthwhile facilities and projects for young people has failed??

My thoughts alone and thank you for the time. I enjoy this website, keep up the good work.

pm

Glad the drive went well op...good luck with xmas shopping...

I have worked with teenagers for the last 17 years....so roughly 8,000 kids in that time and in that time I have only met one that I would consider truly 'evil'..... I have just reached the point where I loathe and detest the media in this country. The ignore the good and exalt the amoral, they crow over failure, yet never encourage success, they encourage the worst in all of us and it makes me sick. *Feels better now...*

[Pete]

I work with kids. Well, they behave like little children sometimes.

Never had any problems with local youths either. Whether it's because I used to have two extremely large German Shepherds (who were actually very docile but my word did they look fearsome!) and word got round rather quickly I don't know......

They have both sadly passed away now and I still hugely miss them. Never had a day when they didn't make me laugh with their antics.