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Old 19th October 2016, 18:28   #11
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The legal term is quashed Richard but I like your description better! It perfectly represents the relationship between the authorities and we humble taxpayers/voters.

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That's the predictive on ma phone lol but id love to squash a few traffic wardens
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Old 19th October 2016, 18:50   #12
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2 month ago iI got fined £100 for staying more than 2 hours in a motorway service station in a courtesy car whilst the garage serviced and changed a couple of bushes on my car.
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Old 19th October 2016, 18:52   #13
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2 month ago iI got fined £100 for staying more than 2 hours in a motorway service station in a courtesy car whilst the garage serviced and changed a couple of bushes on my car.
Sorry this made me laugh out loud!!

I take it you told them to chase themselves?
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Old 19th October 2016, 19:07   #14
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Sorry this made me laugh out loud!!

I take it you told them to chase themselves?
They had 2 clear photos of myself arriving and leaving in the car on their website when the fine came through the door 2 weeks after the event. I tried to fight it but they were having none of it and it increased to £200 if not paid within 2 weeks of my failed appeal.
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Old 19th October 2016, 19:11   #15
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I got one last week 6 minutes after my paid ticket ran out. I've had 2 this month. First one was justifed but 6 minutes!!!!
don't know if the law is different in Scotland but in England you get ten minutes grace now according to a friend who is parking enforcement officer.
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Old 19th October 2016, 19:20   #16
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don't know if the law is different in Scotland but in England you get ten minutes grace now according to a friend who is parking enforcement officer.
No 10 minutes grace in Scotland unfortunately
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Old 19th October 2016, 19:32   #17
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I listened to my friend and that's why I
Parked there but I should of checked myself so I take full responsibility but it is annoying. I'm not made of money and that's £30 I could of saved

A couple of years ago I got fined for no valid reason. I was parked legally in the same spot I have done for years. I contested that one and got my money back but this time there's no getting away.
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Old 19th October 2016, 20:02   #18
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I am not 100% sure on this, but I believe Scotland is similar to Northern Ireland regards these, let's call them exactly what they are, speculative invoices. If you get a 'Parking Charge Notice' on private land, the issuer has to provide evidence of the driver. The driver is the person responsible for entering into the implied contract that is on the notice boards. (this applies to Northern Ireland for sure, check for Scotland)

My car had one just over a year ago, 'inviting me to provide the details of the driver and to pass the PCN to them' the PCN is called the notice to driver. I ignored it, they sent out the Notice to Keeper, after 4 weeks. more on that below.

The issuing company MUST be a member of the British Parking Association (and have logos on the PCN as well as the clearly visible warning boards). If they are not, and it isnt a council or govt. issued ticket, then ignore completely! On the notice to keeper the initial ticket, you have by the BPA guidelines, 2 weeks to pay at the reduced rate, and they MUST allow a further two weeks to pay this reduced rate. After which they are allowed to charge the higher rate. After the threat of having two weeks to pay the higher rate, they will issue a notice to keeper, you have actually an additional 2 weeks to pay (4 in total). The issue to keeper starts the whole process again, and in England and Wales, it IS the responsibility then of the keeper to pay, and CAN be taken to court.


Once I received the the notice to keeper, I wrote to the issuing company requesting information on the driver, ie photographic evidence. If I did not receive said information within 10 working days, I would assume the matter to be closed. A couple of months passed, with no information until I received a threat from a 'solicitor' (the back of the letter was identical to the notice to keeper letter from the issuing company) I have continued to ignore, including the 'deal' letter, where they reduce the final costs by 30% 'to give me a chance' before going to court.

It states quite clearly on the invoice inside the yellow packet 'this is NOT a fine' - fines can only be issued by govt. sanctioned agencies on public land.

Where I had parked, was on private land, which the landlord has an agreement with all the companies in the area of a discounted parking rate. This land is only used when our regular contacted spaces is being used for other purposes. The regular parking area is £3.00 and the temporary place is discounted to £3.20 per day. I wasnt sure of the cost, so put £3.50 into the meter and displayed the ticket clearly. Apparently when the wardens sees £3.20, on the displayed ticket, they confirm with the register (which my car is on) . But as mine said £3.50, it wasnt checked, and ticket was issued. Since the ticket was issued, nobody local wanted to get involved, constantly referring me to the contact on the back of the ticket. The only contacts were a PO Box number and a phone number. The phone number only gave an option to pay and no other correspondence would be entered into. All correspondence had to be made in writing. So I did.

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Old 19th October 2016, 21:57   #19
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Bad luck that Rav, at least the pic of your 75 will have brightened their lousy website up a bit

Down here in Dumfies and Galloway, we don't get charged to park. We all have discs, which are free, that you display your arrival time on. Think it's up to Four hours for free
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Old 19th October 2016, 22:20   #20
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Have just had to pay for an alleged parking offence. First I knew of it was when a letter from an enforcement company came through the box. Seems that I had been taken to court even and knew nowt about it.

Finally got to speak to someone at the council only to be told pay up and shut up!

Just because we do not complain ever five minutes about the poor service we get out in the rural areas we get shafted. Then to top it all we get two other houses letters a few days later ............................................... but the post office does not make these mistakes.

No letters were sent recorded or sgned for it seems and the council claim they sent 4 letters ..................................... yet I have not seen one nor any evidence but hey what does that matter just pay up and shut up like the council clone says.
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