rover 75 cdt oil question - Page 2

Cpt Shed · 26th February 2011, 10:09

Asda have Magnetec on offer, the 1ltr size bottles £3 I believe, might be worth checking your local store to see. I think it was 10-40w, but wouldn't swear to it.

Nige'

NikTheGeek · 26th February 2011, 10:12

Well a definitive answer would be nice as I've only just put that oil in! I even had the argument with Halfords coz they said I should be using 0W/Something Fully Synthetic and I pointed out what my handbook said.

I don't mind changing it for something else, so what exactly is the recommended Diesel oil for a M47R engine that's done 60k?

tnx

Nick

rovexCDTi · 26th February 2011, 10:17

I wouldn't worry, I'm sure it's fine with 10W40 in although I don't rate magnatec very highly personally. It's average at best.

Im undecided what oil to put in at the next service. I will ptobably go for a 5W40. It's in the middle of the ranges the handbook says and doesn't require a second mortgage like the 0W stuff.

craig8661 · 26th February 2011, 10:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpt Shed

Asda have Magnetec on offer, the 1ltr size bottles £3 I believe, might be worth checking your local store to see. I think it was 10-40w, but wouldn't swear to it.

Nige'

i will have a look in there today when at work but im fairly sure our store dont have the megnetec but will go to our bigger store down the road tomorrow with my 10% discount will even be better lol

craig8661 · 26th February 2011, 10:37

the store i work dont have it but on route to one that has it at £3 for 1 liters also looking as some web sites recently said £10 for 4 liters

rovexCDTi · 26th February 2011, 11:11

In my handbook the oil is listed on page 191 so they do seem very different if some list it on page 143. Mine is part number RCL 0548EN 3rd Edition, printed 01/2004 and has pictures of facelift MGs on the front.

The real question is did they change the engine in some way, or was it just an update to the oil spec? This does happen, Rover did it for the PG-1 gearbox when bearing failure started to show early on. They changed from EP gear oil to 10w40 engine oil (or MTF-94 for turbos).

rovexCDTi · 26th February 2011, 11:28

Wilkinsons sell Carlube 5W40 triple R fully synthetic for £15.73 for 4 litres, so get 2 lots for just over £30. It meets all the specs required.

craig8661 · 26th February 2011, 12:50

been down the road its the castrol gtx for £3 a liter so left it

man of kent · 26th February 2011, 13:13

There isn't really a difference between cheap oils and the more expensive ones except the amount of additives to keep the viscocity within the range for a longer period. They all have to meet the spec stated, so whats the difference.................

Good oils last longer ie more additives that wear out over a longer period of time, so, use cheaper oils by all means but change them earlier.

When the additives wear out you are left with a base grade(dirty) oil. What we do not know is what base grade the oil companies use and it differs. It could be that an expensive oil is straight 25 grade with additives. A cheap oil could be 22 grade. That means over time you are running a thinner oil with more possible damage. the cleanliness of the oil and removal of 'bits' is handled by the filter.

I have for too many years to mention used cheaper oil and changed it earlier. the most important thing of all is to change it regularly.

The older the engine the thicker the oil. 5w30 or thinner is usually for new engines. very worn out engine? Get some 20w50 in it. On its last legs? Get some straight 30 grade in it.

craig8661 · 26th February 2011, 13:23

i just remember a ford seria ran on the kiwk save oil it lasted 4 weeks before the engine droped a rod throu the side of the engine thats why im very wary of cheap oils

26th February 2011, 10:12	#12
NikTheGeek Gets stuck in 2002 Range Rover P38 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Wigan Posts: 593 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well a definitive answer would be nice as I've only just put that oil in! I even had the argument with Halfords coz they said I should be using 0W/Something Fully Synthetic and I pointed out what my handbook said. I don't mind changing it for something else, so what exactly is the recommended Diesel oil for a M47R engine that's done 60k? tnx Nick __________________ ʞǝǝƃǝɥʇʞıu@ :ɹǝʇʇıʍʇ

26th February 2011, 10:17	#13
rovexCDTi This is my second home MG ZT+ 135 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Exeter Posts: 3,626 Thanks: 9 Thanked 42 Times in 26 Posts	I wouldn't worry, I'm sure it's fine with 10W40 in although I don't rate magnatec very highly personally. It's average at best. Im undecided what oil to put in at the next service. I will ptobably go for a 5W40. It's in the middle of the ranges the handbook says and doesn't require a second mortgage like the 0W stuff. Last edited by rovexCDTi; 26th February 2011 at 10:24..

26th February 2011, 10:37	#15
craig8661 Posted a thing or two rover 75 tourer cdt Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Chesterfield Posts: 1,924 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	the store i work dont have it but on route to one that has it at £3 for 1 liters also looking as some web sites recently said £10 for 4 liters Last edited by craig8661; 26th February 2011 at 12:50..

26th February 2011, 11:11	#16
rovexCDTi This is my second home MG ZT+ 135 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Exeter Posts: 3,626 Thanks: 9 Thanked 42 Times in 26 Posts	In my handbook the oil is listed on page 191 so they do seem very different if some list it on page 143. Mine is part number RCL 0548EN 3rd Edition, printed 01/2004 and has pictures of facelift MGs on the front. The real question is did they change the engine in some way, or was it just an update to the oil spec? This does happen, Rover did it for the PG-1 gearbox when bearing failure started to show early on. They changed from EP gear oil to 10w40 engine oil (or MTF-94 for turbos). Last edited by rovexCDTi; 26th February 2011 at 11:14..

26th February 2011, 10:09	#11
Cpt Shed Regular poster Rover 75 CDT Connoisseur Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: St Austell Posts: 98 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Asda have Magnetec on offer, the 1ltr size bottles £3 I believe, might be worth checking your local store to see. I think it was 10-40w, but wouldn't swear to it. Nige'

26th February 2011, 11:28	#17
rovexCDTi This is my second home MG ZT+ 135 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Exeter Posts: 3,626 Thanks: 9 Thanked 42 Times in 26 Posts	Wilkinsons sell Carlube 5W40 triple R fully synthetic for £15.73 for 4 litres, so get 2 lots for just over £30. It meets all the specs required.

26th February 2011, 12:50	#18
craig8661 Posted a thing or two rover 75 tourer cdt Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Chesterfield Posts: 1,924 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	been down the road its the castrol gtx for £3 a liter so left it

26th February 2011, 13:13	#19
man of kent Loves to post 75 tourer auto diesel Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Nordelph, nr Downham Market Posts: 419 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	There isn't really a difference between cheap oils and the more expensive ones except the amount of additives to keep the viscocity within the range for a longer period. They all have to meet the spec stated, so whats the difference................. Good oils last longer ie more additives that wear out over a longer period of time, so, use cheaper oils by all means but change them earlier. When the additives wear out you are left with a base grade(dirty) oil. What we do not know is what base grade the oil companies use and it differs. It could be that an expensive oil is straight 25 grade with additives. A cheap oil could be 22 grade. That means over time you are running a thinner oil with more possible damage. the cleanliness of the oil and removal of 'bits' is handled by the filter. I have for too many years to mention used cheaper oil and changed it earlier. the most important thing of all is to change it regularly. The older the engine the thicker the oil. 5w30 or thinner is usually for new engines. very worn out engine? Get some 20w50 in it. On its last legs? Get some straight 30 grade in it.

26th February 2011, 13:23	#20
craig8661 Posted a thing or two rover 75 tourer cdt Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Chesterfield Posts: 1,924 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	i just remember a ford seria ran on the kiwk save oil it lasted 4 weeks before the engine droped a rod throu the side of the engine thats why im very wary of cheap oils