Government petition condeming diesel car penalties. - Page 15

Brigus · 25th August 2014, 18:23

Signed - many thanks for posting this.

It is unfortunate that so much ignorance re diesels has been expressed lately.

Cheers,

LotusLC · 25th August 2014, 20:02

All done , Thanks..

MagicRMorris · 25th August 2014, 20:40

All done, Thanks

Roverite · 26th August 2014, 12:03

Re MG John. That is the point of my Petition. It is not about the rights and wrongs of diesel or petrol, it is the unfairness of these changes. As soon as things are said by the 'experts' on this or that, the vultures circle, looking for a few more easy pickings. Industry rubs its hands with the thought of all the new cars it will sell, politicians look at yet another indirect tax opportunity and the environmentalists look forward to a few more years of cushy employment.

It might be diesel this time, but as sure as eggs are eggs, another little ruse to fleece the motorist will be along shortly. And that is why we need to stick together and fight these issues. We are a club for 75 and ZT enthusiasts; we might prefer an MG to a Rover, or a petrol, as opposed to a diesel, but it is the cars and their future that we should be protecting.

The Petition still hasn't reached 500. I wonder how many diesel owners there are in the club? It must be in the thousands.

Roverite.

Hogwarzt · 26th August 2014, 12:16

Done and dusted

Borg Warner · 26th August 2014, 14:44

Bumpty bump

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_four

Roverite · 28th August 2014, 15:05

It is now at 463.

I have contacted 16 of the larger 'car clubs' that will have a large base of diesel owners (although pre 2006 petrol cars are affected as well), which should improve coverage.

Diesel Car magazine has an article on this subject in their October issue and they are publishing my E-mailed letter, quoting the petition, in their next issue. The Editorial position is similar to some of the posts on here, ie., it is a bit of political scaremongering by Boris and Co, to cosy-up to the 'environmentalists' in the electorate, prior to the 2015 election. That may be, but we often see things bandied about and think nothing will happen, but they are testing our reaction; before you know it, you have a new 'rule'.

Roverite.

MarvinsMom · 28th August 2014, 18:56

Kerry and I have both signed.

Jo x

kourgath · 28th August 2014, 19:15

Well I've listened to the Costing the Earth programme and to be honest it wasn't all that one sided. It did mention the skewing of purchasing due to tax policy based upon only one pollutant. It also mentioned that the latest diesels are on paper cleaner but in reality not due to the way the lab figures are created.
It also mentioned how the most modern diesels with dpf are now doing the regeneration cycle in town rather than out on the motorway so basically are not that useful. It also mentioned that 40% of particulates are from Diesel engines.
Interestingly on Inside Science this afternoon they also did a short piece on this and mentioned in passing that Oxford Street in London has the highest figure but also that it is only busses and taxis as cars are banned from that road.
In conclusion BoJo etc are aiming at the wrong target (again)!

barney bear · 28th August 2014, 20:22

Signed another 2 signatures from our house. 468 when we signed, this should be in the thousands by now.

25th August 2014, 18:23	#141
Brigus Loves to post Rover 75 Club CDT Tourer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 423 Thanks: 24 Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts	Signed - many thanks for posting this. It is unfortunate that so much ignorance re diesels has been expressed lately. Cheers, __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

25th August 2014, 20:02	#142
LotusLC This is my second home MG ZT CDTi Auto / ZT-T Trophy Blue Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: York Posts: 3,981 Thanks: 3,329 Thanked 1,644 Times in 1,238 Posts	All done , Thanks.. __________________ Lotus Carlton - Number 852 (My old car) https://i.imgur.com/Cwa3376m.jpg

25th August 2014, 20:40	#143
MagicRMorris Regular poster Rover 75 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Hull Posts: 30 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	All done, Thanks

26th August 2014, 12:03	#144
Roverite Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Telford Posts: 1,083 Thanks: 653 Thanked 307 Times in 159 Posts	Re MG John. That is the point of my Petition. It is not about the rights and wrongs of diesel or petrol, it is the unfairness of these changes. As soon as things are said by the 'experts' on this or that, the vultures circle, looking for a few more easy pickings. Industry rubs its hands with the thought of all the new cars it will sell, politicians look at yet another indirect tax opportunity and the environmentalists look forward to a few more years of cushy employment. It might be diesel this time, but as sure as eggs are eggs, another little ruse to fleece the motorist will be along shortly. And that is why we need to stick together and fight these issues. We are a club for 75 and ZT enthusiasts; we might prefer an MG to a Rover, or a petrol, as opposed to a diesel, but it is the cars and their future that we should be protecting. The Petition still hasn't reached 500. I wonder how many diesel owners there are in the club? It must be in the thousands. Roverite.

26th August 2014, 12:16	#145
Hogwarzt Gets stuck in MG ZT CDTI 170BHP, PUG CC 180 Sport Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Leeds Posts: 659 Thanks: 4 Thanked 18 Times in 14 Posts	Done and dusted

26th August 2014, 14:44	#146
Borg Warner I really should get out more....... None Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2,579 Thanks: 494 Thanked 657 Times in 402 Posts	Bumpty bump http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_four

28th August 2014, 15:05	#147
Roverite Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Telford Posts: 1,083 Thanks: 653 Thanked 307 Times in 159 Posts	It is now at 463. I have contacted 16 of the larger 'car clubs' that will have a large base of diesel owners (although pre 2006 petrol cars are affected as well), which should improve coverage. Diesel Car magazine has an article on this subject in their October issue and they are publishing my E-mailed letter, quoting the petition, in their next issue. The Editorial position is similar to some of the posts on here, ie., it is a bit of political scaremongering by Boris and Co, to cosy-up to the 'environmentalists' in the electorate, prior to the 2015 election. That may be, but we often see things bandied about and think nothing will happen, but they are testing our reaction; before you know it, you have a new 'rule'. Roverite.

28th August 2014, 18:56	#148
MarvinsMom Avid contributor Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Saltburn-by-Sea Posts: 166 Thanks: 12 Thanked 23 Times in 17 Posts	Kerry and I have both signed. Jo x

28th August 2014, 19:15	#149
kourgath Avid contributor Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: On the Border between Cornwall and Devon, near Tavistock Posts: 153 Thanks: 68 Thanked 22 Times in 21 Posts	Well I've listened to the Costing the Earth programme and to be honest it wasn't all that one sided. It did mention the skewing of purchasing due to tax policy based upon only one pollutant. It also mentioned that the latest diesels are on paper cleaner but in reality not due to the way the lab figures are created. It also mentioned how the most modern diesels with dpf are now doing the regeneration cycle in town rather than out on the motorway so basically are not that useful. It also mentioned that 40% of particulates are from Diesel engines. Interestingly on Inside Science this afternoon they also did a short piece on this and mentioned in passing that Oxford Street in London has the highest figure but also that it is only busses and taxis as cars are banned from that road. In conclusion BoJo etc are aiming at the wrong target (again)!

28th August 2014, 20:22	#150
barney bear This is my second home rover 75 Connoiseur diesel called Rosey Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Preston Posts: 8,096 Thanks: 1,878 Thanked 2,001 Times in 1,424 Posts	Signed another 2 signatures from our house. 468 when we signed, this should be in the thousands by now.