clio not starting- yes I know its not a 75 but...

black olive · 21st June 2007, 19:56

some of you guys may be knowledgable on other makes or point me in the right direction.

2000 Xreg 1.2 clio, 50,000 miles.
has spells of engine turning over but not starting, after a few tries it will eventually start, petrolly smell, so Im suspecting lack of ignition.
Its just had a £150 service to sort this out, but is no better.

any ideas guys, or just take it back to the garage ( I will be ringing them tomorrow anyway) ??

Phil · 21st June 2007, 19:59

don't they have an imobilisor that is deactivated by locking and unlocking the doors on the remote?

black olive · 22nd June 2007, 11:22

done a bit of googling- looks like its going to be the crank sensor (£30).
anyway its going into the garage that serviced it to have its fault codes read.

black olive · 22nd June 2007, 19:53

couldnt resist having a play tonight. Ive removed the crank sensor, cleaned it, and checked it for an ac voltage output when the car was cranking. there was an output there and with the connector to the ECU disconnected the car wouldnt start.

contact cleaned and reconnected the ecu connector and it fired up straightaway, the poor tickover seems to be cured also.

Ill keep my fingers crossed that its cured, even though its booked into the garage its a pain not knowing if its going to start or not

baxlin · 22nd June 2007, 20:39

MB, would you know if the 1.2's the same as the 1.4 16v with regard to the speedo sensor at the gearbox end? I've tried to find it on SWMBO's 2000 reg 1.4, and even though I've got the Haynes, I still can't find it. Speedo works for about a mile when setting off then stops. Seems to me to be an iffy connection.

Thanks

malcolm

David3807 · 22nd June 2007, 22:00

Have either of you had a look on

http://www.renaultforums.co.uk/forums.php

baxlin · 23rd June 2007, 08:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by David3807

Have either of you had a look on

http://www.renaultforums.co.uk/forums.php

Thanks, David, yes I'm a member on there, and they've posted photos for me, but still can't find it. I'm going to take the front wheels off today to see if it's on the ABS sensor a la 75, as Renault did this on some.

Thx

malcolm

Jules · 23rd June 2007, 12:18

[QUOTE=moodybluezt;67509]some of you guys may be knowledgable on other makes or point me in the right direction.

2000 Xreg 1.2 clio, 50,000 miles.
has spells of engine turning over but not starting, after a few tries it will eventually start, petrolly smell, so Im suspecting lack of ignition.
Its just had a £150 service to sort this out, but is no better.

I had a friend of mines 51 Plate 1.2 Clio in for exactly this problem!!
A common fault on these is the flywheel pickup sensor. You dont have to crawl underneath like some!
It's just above the gearbox housing, 2 bolts and 2 wire plug to undo.

I replaced the sensor 6 months ago & so far touch wood it's been OK.
They are about £20

black olive · 23rd June 2007, 21:23

thanks all for the replies, Ive forced myself to take the clio out and about today insted of the ZT, and it seems to have a new lease of life, starting fine and "plucking" under accelleration, and lumpy tickover gone.

cant believe it really, as the sensor wasnt that dirty, but at cranking speeds the output voltage is only a few hundred mllivolts, so I suppose a bit of dirt may go a long way !!

Z135T · 24th June 2007, 07:29

glad to read it's not just R75/ZT with these little niggles.

21st June 2007, 19:56	#1
black olive I really should get out more....... 260 SE vin 214 ( last mark 1 260 ) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2,009 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts	clio not starting- yes I know its not a 75 but... some of you guys may be knowledgable on other makes or point me in the right direction. 2000 Xreg 1.2 clio, 50,000 miles. has spells of engine turning over but not starting, after a few tries it will eventually start, petrolly smell, so Im suspecting lack of ignition. Its just had a £150 service to sort this out, but is no better. any ideas guys, or just take it back to the garage ( I will be ringing them tomorrow anyway) ??

21st June 2007, 19:59	#2
Phil This is my second home Rover 75 CDT Connoisseur SE Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wales Posts: 12,227 Thanks: 469 Thanked 523 Times in 241 Posts	don't they have an imobilisor that is deactivated by locking and unlocking the doors on the remote? __________________

22nd June 2007, 20:39	#5
baxlin This is my second home Volvo C70 Convertible and JZR 3 wheeler Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tring, Herts Posts: 3,961 Thanks: 124 Thanked 173 Times in 124 Posts	While the Clio thread's open........... MB, would you know if the 1.2's the same as the 1.4 16v with regard to the speedo sensor at the gearbox end? I've tried to find it on SWMBO's 2000 reg 1.4, and even though I've got the Haynes, I still can't find it. Speedo works for about a mile when setting off then stops. Seems to me to be an iffy connection. Thanks malcolm

23rd June 2007, 12:18	#8
Jules This is my second home ZT 260 SE Twilight and 10 other 75 ZT's :O Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Conwy NORTH WALES Posts: 11,094 Thanks: 512 Thanked 1,116 Times in 763 Posts	[QUOTE=moodybluezt;67509]some of you guys may be knowledgable on other makes or point me in the right direction. 2000 Xreg 1.2 clio, 50,000 miles. has spells of engine turning over but not starting, after a few tries it will eventually start, petrolly smell, so Im suspecting lack of ignition. Its just had a £150 service to sort this out, but is no better. I had a friend of mines 51 Plate 1.2 Clio in for exactly this problem!! A common fault on these is the flywheel pickup sensor. You dont have to crawl underneath like some! It's just above the gearbox housing, 2 bolts and 2 wire plug to undo. I replaced the sensor 6 months ago & so far touch wood it's been OK. They are about £20 __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Newbies do now!! 1. Plenum drains..all 3 or 4 year dependent 2. Cooling fan..All speeds functioning 3. Bonnet cable divider block Last edited by Jules; 23rd June 2007 at 12:21..

22nd June 2007, 11:22	#3
black olive I really should get out more....... 260 SE vin 214 ( last mark 1 260 ) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2,009 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts	done a bit of googling- looks like its going to be the crank sensor (£30). anyway its going into the garage that serviced it to have its fault codes read.

22nd June 2007, 19:53	#4
black olive I really should get out more....... 260 SE vin 214 ( last mark 1 260 ) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2,009 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts	couldnt resist having a play tonight. Ive removed the crank sensor, cleaned it, and checked it for an ac voltage output when the car was cranking. there was an output there and with the connector to the ECU disconnected the car wouldnt start. contact cleaned and reconnected the ecu connector and it fired up straightaway, the poor tickover seems to be cured also. Ill keep my fingers crossed that its cured, even though its booked into the garage its a pain not knowing if its going to start or not

22nd June 2007, 22:00	#6
David3807 Posted a thing or two 2002 R75 Conn SE 2.5l Auto Tourer, 2001 R75 Conn SE 2.5 Auto Saloon Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Gravesend Posts: 1,897 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Have either of you had a look on http://www.renaultforums.co.uk/forums.php

23rd June 2007, 21:23	#9
black olive I really should get out more....... 260 SE vin 214 ( last mark 1 260 ) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2,009 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts	thanks all for the replies, Ive forced myself to take the clio out and about today insted of the ZT, and it seems to have a new lease of life, starting fine and "plucking" under accelleration, and lumpy tickover gone. cant believe it really, as the sensor wasnt that dirty, but at cranking speeds the output voltage is only a few hundred mllivolts, so I suppose a bit of dirt may go a long way !!

24th June 2007, 07:29	#10
Z135T Avid contributor MG ZT 135+ Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 130 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	glad to read it's not just R75/ZT with these little niggles.