Real world value of ZT 260

StevenWilliams · 1st May 2009, 20:21

Book prices are generally only good for mass produced cars.

The V8s' were not mass produced in that there are not masses of them so any price given has to be taken with a pinch of salt.

If every V8 was put on sale tomorrow for 30k and 1 sells then they are worth 30k.

Zeb · 1st May 2009, 20:25

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Originally Posted by StevenWilliams

If every V8 was put on sale tomorrow for 30k and 1 sells then they are worth 30k.

Except they wouldn't be worth £30,000 due to differences in age, mileage and condition...eg. If the 'new' V8 at SMG DID sell for £30,000, everybody elses would still be worth a lot less...

JP53 · 1st May 2009, 20:35

This seems to be the going rate http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2004-MG-ZT-SE-...3A1%7C294%3A50

Michal · 1st May 2009, 20:48

This is one of the two I noticed on sale. But would you rather pay 7k for the black one, or 8k for this lovely Aurora? I would refurbish the wheels on the black one in gunmetal grey or blackish and call it Black Widow

http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk...leRegLetter=04

Fleckers · 1st May 2009, 20:56

the book price is not for a real V8, traders do not really know what to do with them.

problem is they are trying to buy them for minimum money and then flog them as special car money.

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...132#post324132

this for example is a nice car
worth every penny

If your looking for an everyday point and squirt car wrong car, if your looking for a big comfy mile eater that will go up in price as they are at rock bottom then get one.

my fav is the MK1, I think it looks harder /meaner, but then thats me, I also like the wheels on this one

JP53 · 1st May 2009, 21:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michal

This is one of the two I noticed on sale. But would you rather pay 7k for the black one, or 8k for this lovely Aurora? I would refurbish the wheels on the black one in gunmetal grey or blackish and call it Black Widow

http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk...leRegLetter=04

With out seeing them and although I love the red colour, I would go for the lower milage, less expensive one. I get my wheels refurbed for £50 each :lol:

Jules · 1st May 2009, 21:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michal

This is one of the two I noticed on sale. But would you rather pay 7k for the black one, or 8k for this lovely Aurora? I would refurbish the wheels on the black one in gunmetal grey or blackish and call it Black Widow

http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk...leRegLetter=04

The Aurora saloon looks like it has extra width 235 tyres on her.
Best colour in the world IMO

Duotone · 1st May 2009, 20:59

I find it amazing the low milage on some of the MG Rover V8's on sale these days.
The gold 75 V8 17000 in four years and the ZT in JP53 post 27000 in five years.

I think it shows that these cars were either treasured and little used, or just too expensive to run on a daily basis, possibly both..

Dave T

Tim · 2nd May 2009, 08:52

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Originally Posted by JP53

This seems to be the going rate http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2004-MG-ZT-SE-...3A1%7C294%3A50

I would agree with that.

Because you get a large variation in condition and mileage over a low production run the prices will be all over the shop. (low sample = high core ranges

)

I'm never going to sell but I would be mortified if I got a poo price for an 04 immaculate condition garaged 14k mileage with all the fixes installed.

The other reason I would not sell is I paid 21k for mine while MGR still had a pulse. That would be 66% depreciation

. So with all that poo out of the way, paying £7 - 10k for one of these rare beauties has got to be good value now.

juzza0 · 2nd May 2009, 10:23

The Aurora one is indeed a mk1 converted to a mk2 for press work... i've been with a friend to look at it and although it has been cared for mechanically (it does have a pulley wobble problem tho!) it is in some need of TLC. The wheels are completely shot and need a refurb, the front bumper almost has as many stone chips as it has paint on it! and needs to be re-sprayed... its not even acceptable... its looks a real mess and there are substantial scratches on the drivers door, passenger wing, on two of the door tops and rear bumper. And as it is Aurora the paint is not cheap... you'll be looking at £500-1000 on the paint alone + cost of spraying/lacquer etc. It will need a real enthusiast with deep pockets to restore what should be a gem of a press/TV car

As for pricing... well as everyone above as said, you can not go by the book prices. The cheapest V8 you'll buy is about 5k and for that you'll get a higher mileage average condition car. 6k-8k will buy you a good one with lower mileage and closer to 10k will buy you a special one... maybe something with low mileage, a monogram car etc. It's worth shopping around and having a look to make sure you get a good one. The Two-Sixties is the best place to be for specialist V8 advice although most of us are also on here too so pick up 260 questions here too.

Basically if you want a 260 you are buying it for the long term, not as an investment. Once you've driven one and owned one for a while you'll see why they very rarely come up for sale, because they get into your blood and you never want to sell them!

Hope this helps

1st May 2009, 20:21	#1
StevenWilliams This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon 2.5 V6 British Racing Green. 81,000 miles and counting Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Crawley, West Sussex Posts: 6,183 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Book prices are generally only good for mass produced cars. The V8s' were not mass produced in that there are not masses of them so any price given has to be taken with a pinch of salt. If every V8 was put on sale tomorrow for 30k and 1 sells then they are worth 30k. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Rover 75 2.5 2000 Club SE. British Racing Green. MEMBER NUMBER: MMMDCCXXVI Looking for: 7 seater

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JP53 I really should get out more....... 2004 Rover 75 1.8 Connoisseur SE saloon. 'Eliza' Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kidderminster Posts: 2,466 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	This seems to be the going rate http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2004-MG-ZT-SE-...3A1%7C294%3A50 __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Rover 75, dignity, quality, charm. "Eliza ... Where the devil are my slippers?"

2nd May 2009, 10:23	#10
juzza0 Mmm Monogram MG ZT-T++ & Rover 75 Connoisseur SE (Workhorse) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Nottingham Posts: 948 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The Aurora one is indeed a mk1 converted to a mk2 for press work... i've been with a friend to look at it and although it has been cared for mechanically (it does have a pulley wobble problem tho!) it is in some need of TLC. The wheels are completely shot and need a refurb, the front bumper almost has as many stone chips as it has paint on it! and needs to be re-sprayed... its not even acceptable... its looks a real mess and there are substantial scratches on the drivers door, passenger wing, on two of the door tops and rear bumper. And as it is Aurora the paint is not cheap... you'll be looking at £500-1000 on the paint alone + cost of spraying/lacquer etc. It will need a real enthusiast with deep pockets to restore what should be a gem of a press/TV car As for pricing... well as everyone above as said, you can not go by the book prices. The cheapest V8 you'll buy is about 5k and for that you'll get a higher mileage average condition car. 6k-8k will buy you a good one with lower mileage and closer to 10k will buy you a special one... maybe something with low mileage, a monogram car etc. It's worth shopping around and having a look to make sure you get a good one. The Two-Sixties is the best place to be for specialist V8 advice although most of us are also on here too so pick up 260 questions here too. Basically if you want a 260 you are buying it for the long term, not as an investment. Once you've driven one and owned one for a while you'll see why they very rarely come up for sale, because they get into your blood and you never want to sell them! Hope this helps __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

1st May 2009, 20:48	#4
Michal Regular poster Jaguar S-Type R Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Cardiff Posts: 73 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	This is one of the two I noticed on sale. But would you rather pay 7k for the black one, or 8k for this lovely Aurora? I would refurbish the wheels on the black one in gunmetal grey or blackish and call it Black Widow http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk...leRegLetter=04

1st May 2009, 20:56	#5
Fleckers Avid contributor MG ZT-T V8 SE Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: kent Posts: 204 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	the book price is not for a real V8, traders do not really know what to do with them. problem is they are trying to buy them for minimum money and then flog them as special car money. http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...132#post324132 this for example is a nice car worth every penny If your looking for an everyday point and squirt car wrong car, if your looking for a big comfy mile eater that will go up in price as they are at rock bottom then get one. my fav is the MK1, I think it looks harder /meaner, but then thats me, I also like the wheels on this one

1st May 2009, 20:59	#8
Duotone This is my second home 75 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Leeds Posts: 8,432 Thanks: 176 Thanked 907 Times in 716 Posts	I find it amazing the low milage on some of the MG Rover V8's on sale these days. The gold 75 V8 17000 in four years and the ZT in JP53 post 27000 in five years. I think it shows that these cars were either treasured and little used, or just too expensive to run on a daily basis, possibly both.. Dave T