EURO 6 CDTi details?

[SD1too]

Originally Posted by sln8458

So the CofC would be the same as the info on my V5

Well, that is the question. You could check by phoning Lindsay at MGR C&C Services Ltd. Her company is authorised to provide Certificates of Conformity and she'll check her database so that you don't waste your money if the figure is the same.

Originally Posted by goltho

I do not.

Dougie, what is the NOx value on your V5? It would be interesting to compare it with Steve's.

Simon

[goltho]

Originally Posted by SD1too

Dougie, what is the NOx value on your V5? It would be interesting to compare it with Steve's.

From first post above:

Does anyone have a note of the CDTi Euro 6 diesel emission figures please? They're blank on my V5C.

I've been downloading & examining the VCA spreadsheets referred to in the 2022 KV6 thread which I became aware of today. I'm still unclear why there are only a handful of Rover 75 entries each year they were issued though. Are the emissions data a part of the info chain which other agencies draw from (e.g. TFL/Scotland), do you know?

Dougie.

[sln8458]

Originally Posted by SD1too

Well, that is the question. You could check by phoning Lindsay at MGR C&C Services Ltd. Her company is authorised to provide Certificates of Conformity and she'll check her database so that you don't waste your money if the figure is the same.

Simon

I'll give them a call tomorrow

[SD1too]

Originally Posted by goltho

Does anyone have a note of the CDTi Euro 6 diesel emission figures please? They're blank on my V5C. I'd similarly like to check my 75 which is exempt on TFL but not Scotland.

I don't understand how your car can be exempt from the London (TfL) ULEZ when no NOx figure is shown on your V5C unless TfL has changed its "guilty until proven innocent" policy that it applied to me last year.

Originally Posted by goltho

I've been downloading & examining the VCA spreadsheets ... Are the emissions data a part of the info chain which other agencies draw from (e.g. TFL/Scotland), do you know?

TfL bases its decision upon the data on your V5C or, if it's missing, on the Certificate of Conformity. It doesn't accept the VCA spreadsheet which is odd anyway since each vehicle appears to be assessed individually.

Simon

[goltho]

Originally Posted by SD1too

TfL bases its decision upon the data on your V5C or, if it's missing, on the Certificate of Conformity.

So where/what is that info (C of C)? What I mean is, is it one blanket document covering each specific model, but you have to submit one specifically made out with your vehicle details on it?

Dougie.

[SD1too]

Originally Posted by goltho

So where/what is that info?

It's from my correspondence with TfL last year. I had no emissions figures on my V5C and TfL considered my car liable for the ULEZ charge. I was invited to submit a Certificate of Conformity proving otherwise and this is what I did.

My V5C still has no emissions data. DVLA refused to add it, based upon my car being taxed upon engine capacity rather than CO2 emissions! Obstinate bureaucracy I call it.

I've just seen your edit. Please see post no. 11.

But it's odd that your car is exempt from ULEZ when there's no published NOx figure.

Simon

[goltho]

Originally Posted by SD1too

It's from my correspondence with TfL last year. I had no emissions figures on my V5C and TfL considered my car liable for the ULEZ charge. I was invited to submit a Certificate of Conformity proving otherwise and this is what I did.

My V5C still has no emissions data. DVLA refused to add it, based upon my car being taxed upon engine capacity rather than CO2 emissions! Obstinate bureaucracy I call it.

I've just seen your edit. Please see post no. 11.

But it's odd that your car is exempt from ULEZ when there's no published NOx figure.

Simon

Thanks. I guess then that your car being 1999 was the reason for the DVLA decision in your case. Perhaps if it had been a later model like mine and you'd submitted the C of C, they may have accepted it (assuming that the newer cars qualify for exemption based on the C of C?).

For obvious reasons, I won't be contacting TFL but I am curious to find my car's NOx figure recorded on the C of C. Presumably DVLA take it as <80mg/km and if I can ascertain that as fact, I'll make a correction request to Low Emissions Zones Scotland.

Dougie.

[SD1too]

Hi Dougie,

Just to clarify, DVLA doesn't appear to be involved operationally at all in this. I get the impression that it supplies its database to TfL which then makes its own decisions.

Originally Posted by goltho

... (assuming that the newer cars qualify for exemption based on the C of C?).

All vehicles (except the specialist types granted automatic exemption) are assessed upon the data in the C of C, including my 1999 model. In most cases this appears on the V5C but on some it's inexplicably missing.

Originally Posted by goltho

I am curious to find my car's NOx figure recorded on the C of C. Presumably DVLA take it as <80mg/km ...

It's TfL and the CAZ administrators, not DVLA, that have decided that petrol engines must meet Euro 4, which is 0.08 g/km of NOx, and that diesel engines must meet Euro 6 which is 0.06 g/km.
Correction: Due to misreading my own notes Dougie is correct. For diesels Euro 6 is also 0.08 g/km of NOx.

Good luck with your mission. MGR C&C Services Ltd. website is here.

Simon

[goltho]

Originally Posted by SD1too

I had no emissions figures on my V5C and TfL considered my car liable for the ULEZ charge. I was invited to submit a Certificate of Conformity proving otherwise and this is what I did.

I'm giving Lindsay at MGR C&C a call on Tuesday as you've suggested. So I'm understanding that "proving otherwise" means you were successful with your TfL exemption?

Originally Posted by SD1too

My V5C still has no emissions data. DVLA refused to add it, based upon my car being taxed upon engine capacity rather than CO2 emissions!

Presumably that hasn't mattered in the end given that you obtained the C of C? Although as you said, it seems fatuous.

Dougie.

[SD1too]

Originally Posted by goltho

So I'm understanding that "proving otherwise" means you were successful with your TfL exemption?

Yes I was Dougie and that opened the door to exemption from the national CAZ too.

Simon