Manslaughter now Murder / Pistorius to return to court

chipsceola · 3rd December 2015, 09:17

Oscar Pistorius is to return to Court after his manslaughter conviction is changed to murder on appeal, he will then be sentenced on new verdict.

Darcydog · 3rd December 2015, 09:28

Yes - it puts right the rather odd original decision that an individual could let off four shots into a very confined space and then claim it was manslaughter not murder.

It matters not that he did not know his girlfriend was in the loo - the fact is that whoever was in there had literally 'no where to go" - they were trapped.

So four shots with dum-dum type bullets was a deliberate act and he must have known that whoever was on the other side of the door would be killed.

It is like someone setting out to kill someone but is a bad shot and kills someone else instead. This killing of the third party is still murder - it cannot possibly be manslaughter on the basis that the person the killer intended to kill was not killed and the person killed was killed by mistake.

jonno12 · 3rd December 2015, 20:47

i was absolutely flabbergasted that they didn't come to this conclusion in the first place.

stevenicks · 4th December 2015, 06:24

Excellent news. Pity they don't have the death penalty. What he did to that poor woman is beyond belief.

Leyland Worldmaster · 4th December 2015, 08:46

Justice at long last!

3rd December 2015, 09:17	#1
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3rd December 2015, 09:28	#2
Darcydog This is my second home Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 5,428 Thanks: 3,123 Thanked 3,170 Times in 2,096 Posts	Yes - it puts right the rather odd original decision that an individual could let off four shots into a very confined space and then claim it was manslaughter not murder. It matters not that he did not know his girlfriend was in the loo - the fact is that whoever was in there had literally 'no where to go" - they were trapped. So four shots with dum-dum type bullets was a deliberate act and he must have known that whoever was on the other side of the door would be killed. It is like someone setting out to kill someone but is a bad shot and kills someone else instead. This killing of the third party is still murder - it cannot possibly be manslaughter on the basis that the person the killer intended to kill was not killed and the person killed was killed by mistake.

3rd December 2015, 20:47	#3
jonno12 Posted a thing or two rover75 saloon connie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Solihull Posts: 1,003 Thanks: 78 Thanked 74 Times in 66 Posts	i was absolutely flabbergasted that they didn't come to this conclusion in the first place.

4th December 2015, 06:24	#4
stevenicks This is my second home MG ZT 180 Auto / Rover 75 2.0 Diesel Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Brecon. Posts: 7,465 Thanks: 3,297 Thanked 1,666 Times in 1,264 Posts	Excellent news. Pity they don't have the death penalty. What he did to that poor woman is beyond belief.