Go Back   The 75 and ZT Owners Club Forums > Social Forums > Technology Forum
Register FAQ Image Gallery Members List Calendar
Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 21st August 2014, 15:24   #1
HarryM1BYT
This is my second home
 
HarryM1BYT's Avatar
 
75 Contemporary SE Mk II 2004 Man. Sal. CDTi 135ps, FBH on red diesel, WinCE6 DD

Join Date: May 2010
Location: Leeds
Posts: 17,273
Thanks: 2,160
Thanked 2,061 Times in 1,586 Posts
Default Expertise with sewing machines **NOW SORTED**

I wonder if anyone might have some expertise with old sewing machines?

It a very ancient Singer, very basic, black with gold - with an motor adapotor - yess that old. What its doing is as the top cotton is pulled down below the deck and wrapped around the bottom thingummy, the thread twangs and tends to break. If actually sewing, it sews a few stitches, each getting tighter and tighter until it breaks. It seems to be that it is trying to pull thread back from where it has already been stitched, hence the breakage. M

It does this even with the top tensioner almost completely free.

Watching it below the deck, it seems to snag on the rotating thingummy, but the thingummy is completely smooth and polished.

We were given it many years ago and it annoys me that over that time I have not found the problem. Someone else has obviously had a go at it before me and like me failed.
__________________
Harry

How To's and items I offer for free, or just to cover the cost of my expenses...

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...40#post1764540

Fix a poor handbrake; DIY ABS diagnostic unit; Loan of the spanner needed to change the CDT belts; free OBD diagnostics +MAF; Correct Bosch MAF cheap; DVB-T install in an ex-hi-line system; DD install with a HK amp; FBH servicing.

I've taken a vow of poverty. To annoy me, send money.
HarryM1BYT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st August 2014, 21:33   #2
HarryM1BYT
This is my second home
 
HarryM1BYT's Avatar
 
75 Contemporary SE Mk II 2004 Man. Sal. CDTi 135ps, FBH on red diesel, WinCE6 DD

Join Date: May 2010
Location: Leeds
Posts: 17,273
Thanks: 2,160
Thanked 2,061 Times in 1,586 Posts
Default

Sorted after several hours of faffing about with it

..and unfortunately I don't have a clue what I did to fix it

We had four single quilt covers, which for the past year we have used loose, just tucked around the 4x mattresses sections in the caravan, to protect them from the two dogs. Of course they annoyingly came un-tucked, so my plan was to try to make them fit properly, mattress's inside, which meant 4 x 6 feet of hand stitching, absolutely not something I'm practised in .

Now I'm glad to say they are all done and what's more, they are a perfect fit

The device of torture was an ancient Singer 201K built between 1923 and 1963 according to today's frantic research.
__________________
Harry

How To's and items I offer for free, or just to cover the cost of my expenses...

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...40#post1764540

Fix a poor handbrake; DIY ABS diagnostic unit; Loan of the spanner needed to change the CDT belts; free OBD diagnostics +MAF; Correct Bosch MAF cheap; DVB-T install in an ex-hi-line system; DD install with a HK amp; FBH servicing.

I've taken a vow of poverty. To annoy me, send money.

Last edited by HarryM1BYT; 21st August 2014 at 21:36..
HarryM1BYT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st August 2014, 22:25   #3
klarzy
This is my second home
 
none but not gone

Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: March, Cambs
Posts: 16,437
Thanks: 894
Thanked 4,247 Times in 3,025 Posts
Default

I should imagine your tension-a-ma-bob was miss adjusted causing excess play of the spin-a-martonic rotor in the underslung thread hoist... nest time eat peanut butter just prior to use.... your time will be better spent.
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]….All praise Bananaswan….
klarzy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th August 2014, 23:28   #4
Jumper75
Loves to post
 
Jumper75's Avatar
 
Rover 75 Connoisseur CDT Tourer

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Cardigan
Posts: 358
Thanks: 6
Thanked 49 Times in 44 Posts
Default

I've had this problem before it's not the top tensioner it's the adjustment of the shuttle mechanism. Once they go really out of whack it's almost impossible to get them right again.

If you do a lot of sewing just buy a new one, you can get a decent single needle toyota or similar for somewhere over £100. They won't handle anything heavy but you get a lot more than just the basic blanket stitch that your old singer does.
Jumper75 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th August 2014, 09:59   #5
HarryM1BYT
This is my second home
 
HarryM1BYT's Avatar
 
75 Contemporary SE Mk II 2004 Man. Sal. CDTi 135ps, FBH on red diesel, WinCE6 DD

Join Date: May 2010
Location: Leeds
Posts: 17,273
Thanks: 2,160
Thanked 2,061 Times in 1,586 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumper75 View Post
I've had this problem before it's not the top tensioner it's the adjustment of the shuttle mechanism. Once they go really out of whack it's almost impossible to get them right again.

If you do a lot of sewing just buy a new one, you can get a decent single needle toyota or similar for somewhere over £100. They won't handle anything heavy but you get a lot more than just the basic blanket stitch that your old singer does.
To add a bit of detail....

The upper tensioner had been pulled apart by someone and not correctly reassembled plus it had received a knock and bent the threaded spindle it runs on. It took me ages to work out how was intended to work.

The last thing I did, after which it started to work again, was to try to pull the under the deck bobbin apart. I didn't get very far at all, there was like a C clip held in place by a spring clip. I removed that and refitted it, nothing more and I saw nothing wrong with it.

They are mechanical marvels, when you consider how long ago they were made. My mother bought herself a brand new top of the range Phaff (SP?) in the early 1960's - (I wonder what happened to it?), that would do a massive range of fancy and decorative stitching. It was absolutely packed with cams, gears and rods. I don't remember her ever once using it.

Its not really worth our while buying one, like everyone else, we almost never need it. Until recently, we had a neighbour who would do any small sewing jobs might need.
__________________
Harry

How To's and items I offer for free, or just to cover the cost of my expenses...

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...40#post1764540

Fix a poor handbrake; DIY ABS diagnostic unit; Loan of the spanner needed to change the CDT belts; free OBD diagnostics +MAF; Correct Bosch MAF cheap; DVB-T install in an ex-hi-line system; DD install with a HK amp; FBH servicing.

I've taken a vow of poverty. To annoy me, send money.
HarryM1BYT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th August 2014, 13:37   #6
Jumper75
Loves to post
 
Jumper75's Avatar
 
Rover 75 Connoisseur CDT Tourer

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Cardigan
Posts: 358
Thanks: 6
Thanked 49 Times in 44 Posts
Default

I agree the old singers are almost indestructible, but I do find it useful to be able to do a mending stitch or a buttonhole occasionally.
Jumper75 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:42.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright © 2006-2023, The Rover 75 & MG ZT Owners Club Ltd