unemployment rate RANT - Page 2

bobgrice · 11th February 2014, 13:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by strambo

Reads like a call centre job to me, dressed up as a proper job! Just an observation.

I agree with you.

sikelsh · 11th February 2014, 13:41

Salary: Commission Only - OTE £43,000

So, to be clear, you want an unemployed person (as thats the basis of your rant), to self fund themselves, have their own internet connection / hardware etc, making calls till the point where they earn a commission!

Think you need to withdraw your rant!

Simon

Janny · 11th February 2014, 13:44

with above

Mr_Shed · 11th February 2014, 14:06

Is was going to respond earlier but I have to agree, people want money to pay bills etc, they don't mind working for it, but to be given a carrot on string very far away. Don't think it's realistic even for good sales people to go for.

topman · 11th February 2014, 14:51

The job title and role seem somewhat at odds. I'd look again at the role expand further on that, specifically what the company does. The advertised wage seems to go good to be true. £43000 isn't a wage that is easily gained, particularly in what it sounds to be telesales. I'd probably change the job title as well.

AidenTingley · 11th February 2014, 15:09

I really appreciate your feed back!!

I had the add writen up for me by the recruitment company. The fact is im not looking for a specialist, I am looking for just your average joe willing to make calls to gain business, in return I offer them 50% of the revenue which yes will EASILY fetch 40k a year if not more.

I think I may have to change the advert a round and get it re writen.

All the job requirs the employee to do is call up sole traders and business owners to offer them a free product.

Any more advise would be great

Yozza64 · 11th February 2014, 15:19

Don't take this the wrong way, but now that I have read the advert, and as I have previously stated I am currently looking for work, I'm sorry to say its a job I wouldn't go for. Main reason being yes I have internet connection, but don't have a phone line, sounds like a lot of outlay before you get any money/wage coming in. This would put a lot of unemployed people off

So my initial thoughts are you want someone like me to pay to have a phone installed, then make numerous calls, which may lead to nothing and then pay out a lot of expense before I get a single penny.

Just my thoughts.

topman · 11th February 2014, 15:22

Some idea of the type of product. Perhaps you don't want to say what it is, but what industry would be good. IE automotive, medical, construction industrial parts etc. Mention that it is selling to businesses as well.
Not to harp on about about the wage, but it does seem to good to be true. I don't know what it is they will be selling, so I will just say, if it is an easily earnt £40k+ it must be one of very very few in the country.

If you aren't looking for a specialist say that. The advert reads as though you need a background in specialist sales, that coupled with the job title will put most unemployed off. After all I doubt there are many unemployed 'Business Development Excutives' in Hampshire on the dole.

AidenTingley · 11th February 2014, 15:31

As a business we would cover all cost of phone line ect..

I may change the job title as said it looks to specialised for the people I want.

Le Mans 190 · 11th February 2014, 15:54

is this for real

I was one of 48 drivers that got laid off last Friday afternoon and have applied for over 30 jobs since to either not get replies or the job advertised
is not a real job just agencies making the figures look real

by the way I am 53 soon have a wife who is seriously ill in hospital and still get off my **** everyday before 6 am looking for work

your job description is a joke no wonder no one has broke there neck trying to get hold of you

rant over

11th February 2014, 13:41	#12
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11th February 2014, 14:51	#15
topman This is my second home MG ZT-T 190 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 5,493 Thanks: 372 Thanked 647 Times in 534 Posts	The job title and role seem somewhat at odds. I'd look again at the role expand further on that, specifically what the company does. The advertised wage seems to go good to be true. £43000 isn't a wage that is easily gained, particularly in what it sounds to be telesales. I'd probably change the job title as well.

11th February 2014, 15:09	#16
AidenTingley Regular poster Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Fareham Posts: 67 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I really appreciate your feed back!! I had the add writen up for me by the recruitment company. The fact is im not looking for a specialist, I am looking for just your average joe willing to make calls to gain business, in return I offer them 50% of the revenue which yes will EASILY fetch 40k a year if not more. I think I may have to change the advert a round and get it re writen. All the job requirs the employee to do is call up sole traders and business owners to offer them a free product. Any more advise would be great

11th February 2014, 15:22	#18
topman This is my second home MG ZT-T 190 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 5,493 Thanks: 372 Thanked 647 Times in 534 Posts	Some idea of the type of product. Perhaps you don't want to say what it is, but what industry would be good. IE automotive, medical, construction industrial parts etc. Mention that it is selling to businesses as well. Not to harp on about about the wage, but it does seem to good to be true. I don't know what it is they will be selling, so I will just say, if it is an easily earnt £40k+ it must be one of very very few in the country. If you aren't looking for a specialist say that. The advert reads as though you need a background in specialist sales, that coupled with the job title will put most unemployed off. After all I doubt there are many unemployed 'Business Development Excutives' in Hampshire on the dole.

11th February 2014, 15:31	#19
AidenTingley Regular poster Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Fareham Posts: 67 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	As a business we would cover all cost of phone line ect.. I may change the job title as said it looks to specialised for the people I want.

11th February 2014, 15:54	#20
Le Mans 190 I really should get out more....... RIP Le Mans 190 :( Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atherstone Posts: 2,260 Thanks: 355 Thanked 248 Times in 177 Posts	is this for real I was one of 48 drivers that got laid off last Friday afternoon and have applied for over 30 jobs since to either not get replies or the job advertised is not a real job just agencies making the figures look real by the way I am 53 soon have a wife who is seriously ill in hospital and still get off my **** everyday before 6 am looking for work your job description is a joke no wonder no one has broke there neck trying to get hold of you rant over