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6th December 2021, 08:02 | #21 | |
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Look the technology is primitive, they are unreliable, too expensive, and the infrastructure is just not there and when they go wrong!!!, well do you want me to draw you pictures. So why are these selling so well?, I suppose somebody needs to be an experimental victim. If and when the price is right, i.e. cheap, the reliability improves i.e. they don't catch fire whilst they are being charged, and the range increases by a factor of 10, then, maybe I might consider one, or I will be too old to drive myself!. |
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6th December 2021, 08:29 | #22 | |
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Note everyone can afford, or has space for 4 cars to cover all eventualities. Like you say the EV issue is that it's no good for anything more than a short commute. No good for touring. I'm a mere hour and half away from my parents (80 miles), soon will be two and a quarter hours (130 ish) - By ICE, by EV I dread to think how long that will take if they need my help with something.
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6th December 2021, 09:35 | #23 | |
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Yet so many of us bought the original mobile phones at circa £1500 plus car kits etc. and found them extremely useful. My first mobile was a Motorola 4800X with car kit fitted in a Ford Sierra. Ditto digital cameras. |
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6th December 2021, 09:42 | #24 |
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On the same note but at a bit of tangent, considering electric cars are supposed to be the green option how green is it to scrap perfectly good ICE cars just because they don't comply with the latest emissions standards?
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6th December 2021, 09:55 | #25 | |
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Who is insisting that you scrap a perfectly good ICE car? |
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6th December 2021, 14:41 | #26 |
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No one is insisting but many people are being persuaded or influenced into scrapping their perfectly serviceable car by the "it aint worth fixing mate" brigade, and genuinely believe crushing it and producing a new short life vehicle is somehow good for the planet.
I live next door to a busy working scrap yard and to see the cars in there is alarming, most are under 10 years old, many 6 or 7 years old, mostly electrical faults, some simply a dash light on meaning it will not MOT. These cars are full of plastics and other nasties many of which are burnt off during the smelting process, releasing many carcinogens into the air we breath. Ironically the new car replacing these will meet the same fate in under 10 years . Surely the best thing to help the environment is to keep your old car going, so another one has not got to be produced. |
6th December 2021, 14:52 | #27 | |
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The MG 5 looks to be a good car with a longer range but as it's a new car is not cheap. As I say I'm lucky I have a company car, if I didn't I expect I would have either a petrol or diesel Focus or similar. It all comes down to what you use a car for and indeed what you can afford. |
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6th December 2021, 16:42 | #28 | |
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This really has nothing to do with the EV situation. It is merely the result of growth (meaning spending) being considered a key indicator of success. Also, lifestyles driving greed. If we want to be green and caring for the environment, the masses need to change their consumption driven lifestyles. I think we're dooomed....... |
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6th December 2021, 22:06 | #29 | |
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Yes this is what I meant, I see so many cars scrapped for as you say a warning light or ''would cost more to fix than its worth''. That with scrappage incentives this is just crazy. |
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6th December 2021, 22:50 | #30 | |
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I do agree that we shouldn't be scrapping cars just to make way for EV's however for as long as I can remember cars have been scrapped and new ones made to replace them.....it's just that now the new ones will have batteries rather then petrol tanks.
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The technology is far from primitive, indeed it's now very mature. Just remember that the first cars were electric and that there have been electric cars in one form or another for over a century now. Unlike internal combustion which is now at it's zenith and unlikely to improve EV's will get better however they are already extremely advanced and very usable. Also interesting that you mention fire when in fact EV's are 10 times LESS likely to catch fire then an ICE car. I've had mine for a year and a half and not once has it spontaneously combusted, but maybe I'm just one of the lucky ones?
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