Long overdue .

FLYER · 13th October 2011, 11:15

A debate starts in the COMMONS next week in relation to the paperwork about the HILLSBOROUGH disaster.

22 years later the bereaved are still looking for answers.

Opinions/thoughts ???

WillyHeckaslike · 13th October 2011, 19:16

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FLYER: A debate starts in the COMMONS next week in relation to the paperwork about the HILLSBOROUGH disaster. 22 years later the bereaved are still looking for answers. Opinions/thoughts?

Seems like only yesterday that I watched the tragedy unfold live on tv, a hornets nest if ever there was one.

payner75t · 13th October 2011, 19:23

it would be nice for the families to get some sort of closure , but why has it taken 22 years ??? i think it's disgusting

whitevanman · 13th October 2011, 19:27

Why do it straight away when you can leave it 22 yrs so that there is no one left to point the finger at..Probably beyond the long arm of the law as it were, retired, whatever..

We can't even lock people up for stuff they've done now, look at railtrack etc. No chance after 22 yrs.. Call me a cynic but.....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/sep/27/peter-wright

Think he'll be getting most of the blame don't you???

FLYER · 13th October 2011, 19:35

I read an article yesterday that stated the then liverpool chairman PETER ROBINSON had written to the FA and the police stating that he feared this match had the capability to be another HEYSEL.

His concerns were NOTED

damienp · 13th October 2011, 19:43

As i see it..... Liverpool fans turn up late for the game and are itching to get in the ground. The police do the kindest thing by letting them in, but because the game's being go on so long, there's a mad rush to get in..... and the inevitable happens.
When todays kick offs are delayed because of fans being late, is it because of a result of this tragedy - i dunno

whitevanman · 13th October 2011, 19:58

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Originally Posted by damienp

As i see it..... Liverpool fans turn up late for the game and are itching to get in the ground. The police do the kindest thing by letting them in, but because the game's being go on so long, there's a mad rush to get in..... and the inevitable happens.
When todays kick offs are delayed because of fans being late, is it because of a result of this tragedy - i dunno

Question is was it the kindest thing or was it because they were whoefully undermanned and wanted to confine what they may have seen as a tinderbox situation by cramming them in?? rather than dealing with the problem in the street....

damienp · 13th October 2011, 20:29

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Originally Posted by whitevanman

Question is was it the kindest thing or was it because they were whoefully undermanned and wanted to confine what they may have seen as a tinderbox situation by cramming them in?? rather than dealing with the problem in the street....

Before i put my foot in it, i'll admit that i wasn't there, so i'm not aware of the full facts. Why were the supporters late?

WillyHeckaslike · 13th October 2011, 21:08

Prior to this tragedy it was by no means uncommon for the start of a match to be delayed when it was known that many supporters would arrive late through no fault on their part, in my opinion the failure to delay the start was the trigger for what unfolded.

damienp · 13th October 2011, 21:23

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Originally Posted by FLYER

A debate starts in the COMMONS next week in relation to the paperwork about the HILLSBOROUGH disaster.

22 years later the bereaved are still looking for answers.

Opinions/thoughts ???

And they'll still be waiting another 22 years if they're only just getting round to a debate. A debate means a debate............ and that's all. It's not a promise to do anything.......... Just a chat about it.

My cynicism of parliament leads me to think this is just a discussion to sweep under the carpet some other under hand tax that's about to hit us.
Ok it's a hot subject, but 22 years and they want a debate. FFS.

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damienp This is my second home skoda estate Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: sheffield Posts: 3,474 Thanks: 15 Thanked 122 Times in 68 Posts	As i see it..... Liverpool fans turn up late for the game and are itching to get in the ground. The police do the kindest thing by letting them in, but because the game's being go on so long, there's a mad rush to get in..... and the inevitable happens. When todays kick offs are delayed because of fans being late, is it because of a result of this tragedy - i dunno

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WillyHeckaslike This is my second home Rovers 75 & 25 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wearside Posts: 4,568 Thanks: 543 Thanked 709 Times in 511 Posts	Prior to this tragedy it was by no means uncommon for the start of a match to be delayed when it was known that many supporters would arrive late through no fault on their part, in my opinion the failure to delay the start was the trigger for what unfolded.