Rust! - yes really!!!

Bob Williams · 31st October 2011, 11:30

Whilst looking at the rear brake discs on my 54 registered Contemporary SE Tourer I noticed a lot of rust on the rear sub frame, rear suspension mounts and fuel tank straps. I have arranged for the sub frame and suspension mounts to be removed, sand blasted, properly painted and put back with Waxoyl to save problems later as no doubt replacements are already unobtainable. I've been quoted about £300 for this. Rest of car is excellent but I had not expected so much rust in these hidden places. BEWARE!

Bolin · 31st October 2011, 11:50

Yes, I've got rust in those places too. And slight bubbling in the wheelarch, under the blue top coat, and around the boot aperture where the spot welds are

dollywobbler · 31st October 2011, 11:51

Aye, mine's a bit grotty in that area, though at least the metal seems a decent thickness. I'll have to settle for coating it in anti-corrosion gunk. £300 doesn't sound bad for the amount of work you're having done.

Jake · 31st October 2011, 14:08

Interesting this and thank you for posting. It's quite daunting now when you think the youngest examples of our cars will be 7 years old next year roughly. Hopefully some time next year I'm going to redo the suspension on my car, and will likely give it a good blathering in rust some better waxoyl equivalent then.

Had a good nosey under my 04 Contemporary and all seems ok for the time being, what doesn't help is the rubbish on the roads I fear. I also give my arches a good wash. Also worth commenting the amount of muck that collects behind the wheel arch liners on the front!

Talago · 31st October 2011, 17:04

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Originally Posted by Bob Williams

Whilst looking at the rear brake discs on my 54 registered Contemporary SE Tourer I noticed a lot of rust on the rear sub frame, rear suspension mounts and fuel tank straps. I have arranged for the sub frame and suspension mounts to be removed, sand blasted, properly painted and put back with Waxoyl to save problems later as no doubt replacements are already unobtainable. I've been quoted about £300 for this. Rest of car is excellent but I had not expected so much rust in these hidden places. BEWARE!

Yes, I was cleaning up the brake pipes over the pit yesterday (MOT due) and was surprised at the amount of rust on the rear subframe. Rest of the car is spotless. No rust on bodywork or on floor at all.

Although the subframe looks festered, the metal seems to be quite thick so hopefully it will be ok. I plan to clean it all down and give it a coat of black paint.

David Lawrence · 31st October 2011, 18:42

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Originally Posted by Talago

Yes, I was cleaning up the brake pipes over the pit yesterday (MOT due) and was surprised at the amount of rust on the rear subframe. Rest of the car is spotless. No rust on bodywork or on floor at all.

Although the subframe looks festered, the metal seems to be quite thick so hopefully it will be ok. I plan to clean it all down and give it a coat of black paint.

A good spray all over with Dinitrol rust converter, followed by hard wax should add some protection to see you through the winter. The wax is harder than Waxoyl and doesn't seem to wash off so easy with the road spray.

Dashiel · 31st October 2011, 18:46

Sounds exactly the same as my car.
I would strongly recommend you use Bilt Hamber Hydrate 80 to kill the rust and then follow up with Dynax ub and Dynax s50 to coat.
No I am not a salesman for them.
But IMHO this stuff is light years ahead of the traditional stuff.
It seeps into the weld seams and sets there. (Traditional stuff does not do this, it just sits on top leaving the rust to get on with its work). These are the places you need to be concerning yourself with, as they are the places where the galvanizing was removed during production.

Get a pressure washer behind your wheel arches as well, there was a good fistful of earth on mine - a rust bomb waiting to go off...

jonathan63 · 31st October 2011, 18:57

A product from Bilkhammer might be better than waxoyl.

T-Cut · 31st October 2011, 22:32

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Originally Posted by jonathan63

A product from Bilkhammer might be better than waxoyl.

This is it: http://www.bilthamber.com/pro-introd...e=hydrate%2080

or if that don't work, this: http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/bilt-h...ator-500ml.php

TC

cabbers · 31st October 2011, 22:45

i dont know weather i have a good one then but my w-reg 75 v6 as not got a bit of rust anywere, do the rover 75 rust easy then ???

31st October 2011, 11:30	#1
Bob Williams Loves to post MG ZT-T+ Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 419 Thanks: 5 Thanked 109 Times in 57 Posts	Rust! - yes really!!! Whilst looking at the rear brake discs on my 54 registered Contemporary SE Tourer I noticed a lot of rust on the rear sub frame, rear suspension mounts and fuel tank straps. I have arranged for the sub frame and suspension mounts to be removed, sand blasted, properly painted and put back with Waxoyl to save problems later as no doubt replacements are already unobtainable. I've been quoted about £300 for this. Rest of car is excellent but I had not expected so much rust in these hidden places. BEWARE!

31st October 2011, 18:46	#7
Dashiel Posted a thing or two Rover 75 V6 2.0 Club Tourer LPG Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: South East Posts: 1,405 Thanks: 3 Thanked 39 Times in 34 Posts	Sounds exactly the same as my car. I would strongly recommend you use Bilt Hamber Hydrate 80 to kill the rust and then follow up with Dynax ub and Dynax s50 to coat. No I am not a salesman for them. But IMHO this stuff is light years ahead of the traditional stuff. It seeps into the weld seams and sets there. (Traditional stuff does not do this, it just sits on top leaving the rust to get on with its work). These are the places you need to be concerning yourself with, as they are the places where the galvanizing was removed during production. Get a pressure washer behind your wheel arches as well, there was a good fistful of earth on mine - a rust bomb waiting to go off... Last edited by Dashiel; 31st October 2011 at 18:53..

31st October 2011, 11:50	#2
Bolin This is my second home Rover 75 2.5 V6 Connoisseur SE 4dr manual Wedgewood Blue 2 04-05/06/2001 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: N.E. Hampshire Posts: 4,624 Thanks: 289 Thanked 308 Times in 243 Posts	Yes, I've got rust in those places too. And slight bubbling in the wheelarch, under the blue top coat, and around the boot aperture where the spot welds are

31st October 2011, 11:51	#3
dollywobbler Newbie None Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Nr Aberystwyth Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Aye, mine's a bit grotty in that area, though at least the metal seems a decent thickness. I'll have to settle for coating it in anti-corrosion gunk. £300 doesn't sound bad for the amount of work you're having done.

31st October 2011, 14:08	#4
Jake Banned 2004 75 Contemporary SE Tourer, 2005 (55) Pearl Black Conn. SE Tourer. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Lincoln Posts: 2,129 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Interesting this and thank you for posting. It's quite daunting now when you think the youngest examples of our cars will be 7 years old next year roughly. Hopefully some time next year I'm going to redo the suspension on my car, and will likely give it a good blathering in rust some better waxoyl equivalent then. Had a good nosey under my 04 Contemporary and all seems ok for the time being, what doesn't help is the rubbish on the roads I fear. I also give my arches a good wash. Also worth commenting the amount of muck that collects behind the wheel arch liners on the front!

31st October 2011, 18:57	#8
jonathan63 This is my second home CDTi Conniosseur SE HLNav Tourer and a Personal Line CDT Conniosseur SE Tourer..for the time being. Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cumbria Posts: 3,639 Thanks: 340 Thanked 423 Times in 294 Posts	A product from Bilkhammer might be better than waxoyl.

31st October 2011, 22:45	#10
cabbers Retired 62-reg Suzuki SX4 SZ5 1.6i AWD / 07-reg Audi S3 2.0 T FSI Quattro Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Darlaston Posts: 1,706 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i dont know weather i have a good one then but my w-reg 75 v6 as not got a bit of rust anywere, do the rover 75 rust easy then ???