Difference between focus st?

BrainKing · 30th October 2013, 08:12

Whats the difference betwn the focus st and rs?

swanndoggz · 30th October 2013, 08:15

RS has bigger turbo and different ECU settings and obviously the big bodykit

RobMorris · 30th October 2013, 08:26

What age are we talking?

MrDoodles · 30th October 2013, 08:27

About 75 bhp!

Andydote · 30th October 2013, 08:33

From Parkers:

Focus RS: 0-60 5.7, Top Speed 163mph, 300bhp.
Focus RS500: 0-60 5.2, 350bhp.

Focus ST: 0-60 6.6, Top speed 150, 221bhp.
Focus ST (2012+): 0-60 6.3, Top speed 154mph, 246bhp.

swanndoggz · 30th October 2013, 09:27

you can get a focus st to around 270 bhp using superchips bluefin. not far off a RS.

stevebrookman · 31st October 2013, 11:54

Brothers got a ST 225. He has a hand held device by which he can program the cars ECU - it's a bit like a fault code reader. He can program in different maps. I think it's currently running at a low torque setting at around 280BHP. When I say low torque it's all relative-it will push you back into your seat if you floor it at 45mph in 5th gear. He's got it on low torque to let the clutch last a little longer!

Steve

Jakg · 31st October 2013, 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by swanndoggz

you can get a focus st to around 270 bhp using superchips bluefin. not far off a RS.

Depends on the STr - no way will the original MK1 ST (170 HP) do that!

Andydote · 31st October 2013, 15:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakg

Depends on the STr - no way will the original MK1 ST (170 HP) do that!

I don't think the Mk1 RS was considered in this thread, however if I was given the option to own a Focus RS, it would be the Mk1.

Even if it's not as powerful on paper, it's a much better looking and built car than the newer ST/RS. Much more classy.

Sidetops · 1st November 2013, 11:32

I have had both, and they are very different animals. If the Focus MK2 ST is a dolphin, the RS MK2 would be a shark!
Apart from performance, the suspension is much firmer, steering sharper, and has a system call Revoknuckle, which reduces torque steer. Fuel economy was actually better than with my ST. Both MK2's use the 2.5 litre 5 cylinder 20 valve engine from Volvo.

The MK1 RS, very different as well, this is a far more nimble car. Not so much out right speed as both the ST and later RS, but still very quick. MK 1 Focus ST also handled very well, with uprated steering and gearbox, and variable valve timing, but offers not much more than a regular 2.0 Focus

With both RS's I felt that as a competent driver it was capable of more than I could do in it. On the other hand, with the ST I felt I could perhaps find its limits!

Here are my former beauties:

MK1 Focus ST170 (170)

MK1 Focus RS (212)

MK2 Focus ST-3 (225)

MK2 Focus RS (300)

.. and yes I now own a Rover 75 instead

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Andydote Gets stuck in ZT CDTI & 220 Turbo Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Coventry Posts: 880 Thanks: 30 Thanked 119 Times in 67 Posts	From Parkers: Focus RS: 0-60 5.7, Top Speed 163mph, 300bhp. Focus RS500: 0-60 5.2, 350bhp. Focus ST: 0-60 6.6, Top speed 150, 221bhp. Focus ST (2012+): 0-60 6.3, Top speed 154mph, 246bhp. __________________ MG ZT CDTI - 325mm Brake Upgrage - Fan Resistor Upgraded - Air Intake Chopped - PCV Filter Done - Intercooler O-Rings done - Strut Mount Bearings Replaced - Black Alcantara Interior Fitted. http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...23ce063f6c.jpg

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Sidetops I really should get out more....... Land Rover Freelander 2 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: East Sussex Posts: 2,252 Thanks: 293 Thanked 327 Times in 240 Posts	I have had both, and they are very different animals. If the Focus MK2 ST is a dolphin, the RS MK2 would be a shark! Apart from performance, the suspension is much firmer, steering sharper, and has a system call Revoknuckle, which reduces torque steer. Fuel economy was actually better than with my ST. Both MK2's use the 2.5 litre 5 cylinder 20 valve engine from Volvo. The MK1 RS, very different as well, this is a far more nimble car. Not so much out right speed as both the ST and later RS, but still very quick. MK 1 Focus ST also handled very well, with uprated steering and gearbox, and variable valve timing, but offers not much more than a regular 2.0 Focus With both RS's I felt that as a competent driver it was capable of more than I could do in it. On the other hand, with the ST I felt I could perhaps find its limits! Here are my former beauties: MK1 Focus ST170 (170) MK1 Focus RS (212) MK2 Focus ST-3 (225) MK2 Focus RS (300) .. and yes I now own a Rover 75 instead Last edited by Sidetops; 1st November 2013 at 15:38..

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RobMorris Avid contributor MG ZT-T 2.0 Diesel Manual Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Aveley, Essex Posts: 123 Thanks: 15 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	What age are we talking?

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MrDoodles Banned MG ZT+ V6 190 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Spalding Posts: 13,245 Thanks: 369 Thanked 1,196 Times in 818 Posts	About 75 bhp!

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swanndoggz Avid contributor ZT120+, Rover 220GSI Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 109 Thanks: 7 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts	you can get a focus st to around 270 bhp using superchips bluefin. not far off a RS.

31st October 2013, 11:54	#7
stevebrookman Regular poster Still looking for a Conny Se CDTi Tourer Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Caerphilly Posts: 63 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Brothers got a ST 225. He has a hand held device by which he can program the cars ECU - it's a bit like a fault code reader. He can program in different maps. I think it's currently running at a low torque setting at around 280BHP. When I say low torque it's all relative-it will push you back into your seat if you floor it at 45mph in 5th gear. He's got it on low torque to let the clutch last a little longer! Steve