Rolling Road test tomorrow....

Robson Rover Repair · 13th July 2012, 19:38

Well tomorrow is the rolling road day in and we have all sorts going up, but I thought I would share this with you before tomorrow.

The tourer will be going on tomorrow and it was previously ran on the rollers, this is the sheet it made before....

.... with the synergy turned up I think to 5 as its on a standard MAF, the previous owner Craig will confirm what it was running for 100%.

As you can see it made on second run 135 and 228 torques roughly, so whilst im expecting it to be way down tomorrow as the car is currently standard now without synergy or anything at all so it will be interesting to see what it really gets!

Strangely the same day first time, there was another CDT auto 115 running the synergy and same set-up and got 136 and 228 on the same rollers running I believe at 5 with standard MAF.

rover54 · 14th July 2012, 13:59

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Originally Posted by Colin_NI

Well tomorrow is the rolling road day in and we have all sorts going up, but I thought I would share this with you before tomorrow.

The tourer will be going on tomorrow and it was previously ran on the rollers, this is the sheet it made before....

.... with the synergy turned up I think to 5 as its on a standard MAF, the previous owner Craig will confirm what it was running for 100%.

As you can see it made on second run 135 and 228 torques roughly, so whilst im expecting it to be way down tomorrow as the car is currently standard now without synergy or anything at all so it will be interesting to see what it really gets!

Strangely the same day first time, there was another CDT auto 115 running the synergy and same set-up and got 136 and 228 on the same rollers running I believe at 5 with standard MAF.

Much improved and now flat torque curve from 2100 to 3200, very useful is it is in the critical driving range for about town driving, so it should be nippy.

Robson Rover Repair · 14th July 2012, 15:47

Oh no, thats what the previous owner had got on the car with a synergy.

Today she made 109bhp 100% standard no modification to the engine at all and cant remember torque but the graphs where quite good. Will get it up when its emailed to me next week.

She just kept forcing herself into 5th gear even when locked into 4th at peak revs so couldnt get a 100% accurate figure but close enough to OEM has me happy as standard only 114 bhp sure.

Important thing was she wasnt serviced, hasnt any issues and best off all ran nicely on the rollers, so bodes well for my september or october remap.

VVC-Geeza · 14th July 2012, 18:05

What power are you looking for with the remap?

rover54 · 14th July 2012, 18:06

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Originally Posted by Colin_NI

Oh no, thats what the previous owner had got on the car with a synergy.

Today she made 109bhp 100% standard no modification to the engine at all and cant remember torque but the graphs where quite good. Will get it up when its emailed to me next week.

She just kept forcing herself into 5th gear even when locked into 4th at peak revs so couldnt get a 100% accurate figure but close enough to OEM has me happy as standard only 114 bhp sure.

Important thing was she wasnt serviced, hasnt any issues and best off all ran nicely on the rollers, so bodes well for my september or october remap.

If your car is a 116bhp, then 109bhp at the wheels is very good. You will always get loses when engine is couple to a transmission and final drive. Engine BHP is derived on an engine dyno with no other part of the drive chain connected.

Robson Rover Repair · 15th July 2012, 00:19

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Originally Posted by VVC-Geeza

What power are you looking for with the remap?

Comfortably standard the car will see 150 bhp as the tuner has done several of them before, im fortunate mine needs no MAF or anything like that as everything perfect.

Got a EGR bypass ready, getting a straight through exhaust fitted onto the original exhaust from the and a good service before hand hes going to get me a really nice map to use for everyday drive ability with the auto box.

Robson Rover Repair · 19th July 2012, 16:49

I thought I would include the graph for the standard car (nothing, not even air flow mod) here so everyone can compare, top is OEM, bottom was the synergy and I will add the remaped one when i get it one in september ish.

Robson Rover Repair · 6th February 2013, 16:48

Ok folks, here I have updated to give people a judgement with my car standard, with a synergy and now with a mafless remap

OEM - 100% standard

When fitted with the Synergy (previous owner Craig on here had it then)

And now with my MAFless remap which I specifically request to be more MPG focused on the autobox

A great result for me all round and im very happy with the car especially when it warmed up second time, makes for a very lazy low rev car to drive and explains why its so happy to sit in higher gears at lower revs than pre-remap but theres more in it, but thats another story

I wanted to share it with everyone so people can see their choices out there.

Frank Incensed · 9th February 2013, 04:47

Can I just confirm they're all figures at the wheels, Colin. No compensation factor built in to estimate the figure at the crankshaft?

Ta
Robert

rathlindri · 9th February 2013, 10:54

V interesting Colin, have you had a chane to evaluate conparison MPG figures yet?

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Robson Rover Repair NI/ROI RS ZT-T 190 / 75 Diesel x3 / 6 door limo / 216 Cabby / Rover 25 van Join Date: May 2009 Location: Antrim Posts: 8,104 Thanks: 299 Thanked 1,046 Times in 568 Posts	Oh no, thats what the previous owner had got on the car with a synergy. Today she made 109bhp 100% standard no modification to the engine at all and cant remember torque but the graphs where quite good. Will get it up when its emailed to me next week. She just kept forcing herself into 5th gear even when locked into 4th at peak revs so couldnt get a 100% accurate figure but close enough to OEM has me happy as standard only 114 bhp sure. Important thing was she wasnt serviced, hasnt any issues and best off all ran nicely on the rollers, so bodes well for my september or october remap. __________________ Cheers, Colin Robson Rover Repair on Youtube DISCOUNTED MTEC BRAKES FOR ALL MG ROVER'S Braided hoses, more coating and pad options for 2024

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Robson Rover Repair NI/ROI RS ZT-T 190 / 75 Diesel x3 / 6 door limo / 216 Cabby / Rover 25 van Join Date: May 2009 Location: Antrim Posts: 8,104 Thanks: 299 Thanked 1,046 Times in 568 Posts	I thought I would include the graph for the standard car (nothing, not even air flow mod) here so everyone can compare, top is OEM, bottom was the synergy and I will add the remaped one when i get it one in september ish. __________________ Cheers, Colin Robson Rover Repair on Youtube DISCOUNTED MTEC BRAKES FOR ALL MG ROVER'S Braided hoses, more coating and pad options for 2024

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Robson Rover Repair NI/ROI RS ZT-T 190 / 75 Diesel x3 / 6 door limo / 216 Cabby / Rover 25 van Join Date: May 2009 Location: Antrim Posts: 8,104 Thanks: 299 Thanked 1,046 Times in 568 Posts	Ok folks, here I have updated to give people a judgement with my car standard, with a synergy and now with a mafless remap OEM - 100% standard When fitted with the Synergy (previous owner Craig on here had it then) And now with my MAFless remap which I specifically request to be more MPG focused on the autobox A great result for me all round and im very happy with the car especially when it warmed up second time, makes for a very lazy low rev car to drive and explains why its so happy to sit in higher gears at lower revs than pre-remap but theres more in it, but thats another story I wanted to share it with everyone so people can see their choices out there. __________________ Cheers, Colin Robson Rover Repair on Youtube DISCOUNTED MTEC BRAKES FOR ALL MG ROVER'S Braided hoses, more coating and pad options for 2024 Last edited by Robson Rover Repair; 6th February 2013 at 16:57..

9th February 2013, 04:47	#9
Frank Incensed Ex 75 Owner 75 Tourerless Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,147 Thanks: 60 Thanked 156 Times in 93 Posts	That Looks Impressive Can I just confirm they're all figures at the wheels, Colin. No compensation factor built in to estimate the figure at the crankshaft? Ta Robert __________________ Beyoncé's Green Light Used More Rubber 355188 of 355194

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rathlindri Loves to post 2004 MG ZT CDTi 135+ saloon Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ballymena Posts: 427 Thanks: 161 Thanked 52 Times in 38 Posts	V interesting Colin, have you had a chane to evaluate conparison MPG figures yet?