the d.i.y members on here appreciate the technical knowlege and knowhow on here far more than those who dont use spanners ... for whatever reasons. some of us are on very limited budget restraints only supported by basic pension . ... for whatever reasons or circumstances they find themselves which are not always their own fault. each of us have different financial circumstances so its probably a good idea to have a donate button , which i doubt is used very often at all. each to his own of course .