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Old 19th December 2018, 23:43   #16
neilbaker86
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Originally Posted by marinabrian View Post
Neil, I'm not making excuses for anyone, but as I've been driving a lot longer than you, I probably have more experience, and certainly don't behave in a manner that would endanger other road users.



No you are completely wrong Steve, here is the legal definition for you to look at


Can you receive a penalty for undertaking?

Some drivers may find it tempting to undertake, especially if they’re faced with a middle-lane hogger, but be aware that it can be dangerous and you can be fined for doing so.

Undertaking recklessly could see you receive a fixed penalty notice (FPN) for careless driving or driving without due care and attention.



I don't hog the middle lane, and like to "make progress", but it is always better to arrive five minutes late in this world, than ten minutes early in the next

Brian

I don't undertake on a motorway when I can pass them in lane 3, but I will on a dual-carriage way when lane 1 is completely NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- empty (and on a motorway when lane 3 is also blocked usually with some idiot at the front of a queue refusing to pull back in to lane 2 or 1). What I think is unsafe is other people who are too lazy or ignorant to pull back in to lane 1 turning a three lane motor way effectively in to one. I don't sudden fly past in lane 1 for no reason, I will have been sat behind them at a safe distance for some time before I give up, and this is mostly on a dual-carriage way where lane 3 is not an option.



It's a bit like when I see other motorists driving with their rear fog lights on when it isn't foggy, or no headlights, I give them a flash in attempt to make them aware something is amiss, but 9/10 they just carry on as they were, if they haven't noticed that they don't have their lights on then they probably wont notice me flashing them.


Some people seem to get behind the wheel and totally switch off, or make the actual act of driving about 8 or 9 on their list of things to do.
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