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Old 17th July 2019, 23:20   #15
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Originally Posted by Olde faithful View Post
Trouble is you DON'T own the Batteries a third party do, Not Jag either!!
all this rubbish about air pollution , heres a few points

its takes 10 barrels oil to make a combustion engine cars, to make a battery car 25 barrels of oil, so more oil up front for materials, then

the power stations are currently running at 96% in Great Britain, if we all go to battery cars the national grid will shut down at 17:05 when we all get home from work . The grid cannot take it and more coal/wind, hydro is being shoved in to push out the Giga watts to the houses. * FROM THE TAIL PIPE TO THE COOLING TOWERS INSTEAD*

These are things the GB government is NOT telling us about. THE end of life CARS ALSO not in here when the cars ARE scrapped in years to come, battery cars are more environmentally worse than the good old combustion engine and will cost YOU to scrap it .

Battery cars will also add to the depletion of oils of plastics, so all things made of plastic will increase household costs, as the great oil fields like Ghawhar ( SAUDI ARABIA) deplete year after year , currently from 9 million barrels a day to just 4.5 million barrels of oil now from 1948 to 2019.

This depletion is NOT being replaced by new technology or new oil fields, Ghawhar field is currently pumping in millions of gallons of water per day to keep the oil pressure up, Battery cars are NOT the answer its a front only.

JAGUAR do not do it keep making beautiful cars with another means... be a class leader , not crowd follower.
It is our consumption of oil that makes the polymer by-products so cheap that it more expensive to recycle used plastic, so we just discard huge quantities of it, polluting the planet. High time the government put a tax on virgin plastic, and cross-subsidised re-cycling of plastics, after all, there is far more waste plastic in the world than we are ever likely to need, as long as we continue to recycle it. And electric motors are so much more efficient than even the latest eco IC engines, even after including the losses from steam turbine generation ( again, far more efficient than the IC engine, even when produced by coal), and grid delivery losses, there is really no argument. Add to that the huge cost of delivering fuel to filling stations by tanker, transport of oil to refineries by supertankers, etc,it becomes apparent that electric cars, or electrification of existing cars, is the only way to make any impact on transport pollution. And as we replace more of our old fossil fuelled power stations with renewables, and roll out further efficiencies in our homes and businesses, more electricity will be available for charging up our cars. But you are correct that our current grid infrastructure is woefully inadequate for the carbon reduction promises made by our not-for-much -longer PM. Solar panels on every new building should be made mandatory. That would help!
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