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Rsnail 22nd January 2024 09:30

Electric window issue
 
Hello guys I have a problem with my passenger side electric window (LHD european car), some weeks ago I started hearing some crunchy sounds "grr-grr" kind of, but the window was still working normally. That lasted until today when I wanted to roll up the window and started hearing a more intense crunchy sound and then it stopped working at all. Does anyone know what could cause this so I can already order it without me having to unmount the door panel for now? The electric motor still seems to be working perfectly fine because I can hear it and it is definitely functional. Thank you!

MissMoppet 22nd January 2024 11:22

Prob cable snapped. Plenty of passenger side complete regulators on eBay: it's driver side in UK that are hard to find as obviously they get the most wear. Suggest you throughly spray grease everywhere the "new" cable runs, particularly round the drum at bottom which prob shows rusty cable where it has parted.

Rsnail 26th January 2024 18:51

I quiet doubt it's the cable, my reasoning: when it snaps it snaps and it stops working suddenly, in my case, the grinding cruching noise started happening some good weeks ago, way before this happened, so that couldn't have been the cable which was "about" to snap I guess, what would you think? Any more opinions? :bowdown:

GeoffWW 26th January 2024 20:57

When the cable starts to rust, the strands of wire start to snap individually and break away from the main cable. Once these strands get to the guide wheels, they cannot stay in line with the main cable and break away and start to go round and round the guide wheels.
This accumulation of even just two or three strands wound around a guide wheel a few times gives the grinding noise you have heard

Rogue 26th January 2024 21:11

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Originally Posted by Rsnail (Post 2987750)
I quiet doubt it's the cable, my reasoning: when it snaps it snaps and it stops working suddenly, in my case, the grinding cruching noise started happening some good weeks ago, way before this happened, so that couldn't have been the cable which was "about" to snap I guess, what would you think? Any more opinions? :bowdown:




The grinding noise is exactly what occurred on mine before the cable snapped.

Rsnail 26th January 2024 22:40

Thank you so much for the explanations guys! My last question. Is it possible to replace only the cable? Or do I have to replace something else along with it too for whichever reason? If so, do you have the part nr for the cable and possibly for the part that would have to replaced along with it too? Thanks again :bowdown:

MissMoppet 27th January 2024 09:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rsnail (Post 2987766)
Thank you so much for the explanations guys! My last question. Is it possible to replace only the cable? Or do I have to replace something else along with it too for whichever reason? If so, do you have the part nr for the cable and possibly for the part that would have to replaced along with it too? Thanks again :bowdown:


Theoretically you could replace the cable - it's a standard Bowden as used by bikes since year dot, if you can find a bike shop to make one up, but they're not dear complete off eBay particularly as you want a passenger side in our terminology. And once you get the door card off and see how complicated the cable run is I don't think you'll want to go the cable route.

Arctic 27th January 2024 10:20

Quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissMoppet (Post 2987784)
Theoretically you could replace the cable - it's a standard Bowden as used by bikes since year dot, if you can find a bike shop to make one up, but they're not dear complete off eBay particularly as you want a passenger side in our terminology. And once you get the door card off and see how complicated the cable run is I don't think you'll want to go the cable route.


This is how the window mechanism look out of the car.
https://i.imgur.com/9EkCYmxl.jpg1

https://i.imgur.com/cs4PHNGl.jpg2

https://i.imgur.com/1tbqFgsl.jpg3

https://i.imgur.com/PiHmFn1l.jpg4

https://i.imgur.com/4GmHfIGl.jpg5
back doors above.

https://i.imgur.com/mXutNTfl.jpg6

https://i.imgur.com/0g2Liltl.jpg7

https://i.imgur.com/GxZLpIsl.jpg8

Note kinks in the cable.
https://i.imgur.com/SH7u0phl.jpg9

I doubt it will be the motors they seem robust.
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https://i.imgur.com/bv6H2kvl.jpg11

https://i.imgur.com/JAIMcUXl.jpg12

https://i.imgur.com/BATncoSl.jpg13

https://i.imgur.com/sKf6eoRl.jpg14

https://i.imgur.com/UMuXqdhl.jpg15.

I think i have a bag of cables and cogs etc somewhere? but of cause you are in Germany i think (Galambosi)

Rsnail 27th January 2024 13:58

So in order to avoid the hassle of replacing only the cable, can anyone tell me the part nr. for the part/s that I'd need to order and replace the whole mechanism?

Thank you Arctic! Once I'll figure out what part nr. I'll need to replace maybe you could tell me how much you want for that specific one/s if you'd still have that around somewhere, of course only if it wouldn't be a hassle for you shipping them :o

MissMoppet 27th January 2024 22:13

Several on eBay here (only £25!).


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