Navall Star Technical and Follow up thread for Navall Star Owners ONLY Please
We have started the bulk shipping this week and it would be great if we can post in this thread any questions or concerns so everyone can share in experiences, solutions and tips. .
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Your head units will arrive with the club logo installed.
They have the MG, Rover and Rover facelift badges preinstalled, so if you want to change to any of those Please go to "car setting ---> Common ---> Boot Logo (Password: 9999) --- Select your logo there. http://75andzt.com/image/catalog/Nav...oot%20Logo.jpg |
Thanks Sean,
Mine has arrived, just opened the box and it all looks very nice. Won't have time to do anything until Sunday so I might be back with more questions. anyway off the top of my head; is there an on line manual? does the old win CE unit need any special tools to remove , or will it just slide out? I notice there are 2 USB cables labelled differently, what is the difference, I would probably like to put a USB stick on to play my music, which one will be best? the packing note says it has a SD card with Naval 8 on it, is that the updated version of the win CE one I've been using, will it have maps or do I need to buy them? Will I be able to log onto my google account and download my apps etc and use it like my phone? thats all for now cheers Marcus |
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It will directky repolace your Wince Unit Either USB Cable is fine and actually there are 3. There is an SD Card already ijn the Maps slot and its fully upgraded , nothing to buy. Yes to your google account, yiou will have to set it to recognize the new device but thats it, you will be able to download apps. Cheers Sean Quote:
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Great unit Sean
Swopped for Nav 3 as a test and its a nice little unit well worth the money and the speed of boot .... Wow ! lol only bad point is .... I have to give you money .... ok ok I mean Tomtom crashes on loading but that's all lol (compared to nav 3 ) |
Thanks. Sean,
That sound perfect, just what I'd hoped for. I'll post back when I've got it in and working, hopefully tomorrow. Marcus |
Wallpaper sizing ? when i try to put custom wallpaper up you only have a square which you can manipulate ie small, bigger but that's it .i cannot get it to capture the whole wall paper at the moment ?
Home screen would be nice if we could remove the two small widgets so you have your wallpaper and icons bottom of page ? But that saying the screen is far much better especially in Movies (separate settings) boot screen stays dark, then logo then pow quick and no more advertising. |
Sat nav works well (BUT VERY LOUD) even with volume turned to Zero in sound settings so it matches master volume need volume to be the same as master volume....
And i cant seem to find the setting for no music etc when sat nav starts ie only voice if required. |
Had my Naval Star fitted by Jeff yesterday and am really pleased with it, its far superior to the WinCE unit.m Thanks Jeff for the fitting and explanations.
Thw WinCE unit is now for sale to anybody who wants it, it has a walnut face to it and is up to date |
Ok, fitted the unit today;
First thing, the sound....WOW it was like I'd had new speakers fitted to the car...really big improvement. Unfortunately this only worked with CD's and blue tooth music, when playing Spotify premium the sound wasn't as good. None of the music equaliser controls seemed to work with Spotify. Hopefully USB audio will be as good as the CD, haven't checked yet. Touch screen is wonderful compared to the old win CE unit. You have to go into settings to get the seeing wheel controls to work. The screen seems very bright and I've struggled to see non black text on a lot of menus , I can't seem to find a contrast setting. Seems like the contrast needs to be changed , I found brightness but that doesn't make text in colours other that back easier to read. Any ideas where contrast is? All in all a great improvement over the previous unit. Thanks Sean :D I too now have a win CE unit for sale. Any idea what I would ask for it? Marcus |
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There does not seem to be any volume control for the SAT NAV sound which seems strange all other Android units I have had, had this facility. One for Sean to talk to the factory about. |
Hi Sean.. Could you tell me when mine will be sent. I will be away on sat for a few days Would appreciate it before I go if possible please. as you know I have quite a few things on order.
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It might mean playing about with it several times to get it how you like it. The only down side you have to reset the EQ and the radio station presents each time, so get the resalaution right before you change any other settings. Hope this helps you all. |
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Hi Sean,
I was also wondering about delivery, have not received a a UPS number. Cheers Mike |
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Re dab
We Have discovered that some units may not have the DAB App Installed from the factory. If thats the case on yours, please contact me , we will send the DAB app for download. Please note this Appworks ONLY with our DAB receiver and Just takes a few moments to install........
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Shipping
I am getting several requests on shipping and the units are sitting in the UPS Access points already , we have 43 shipments almost complete so I decied to post here in hopes most will see it but we will notify if a shipment is sitting without being collected for too long. .
Everyone gets notification from Parcel2go to the provided email addresses regarding Domestic shipments We use a Shop to Shop courier service available to us via UPS It allows you to collect the shipment locally and you don't have to wait for or arrange for someone to be there when a courier arrives. It also seems to be a more desirable service for most people with busy schedules ! If we have your mobile # , we enter it and they will text you when the shipment is available to collect , usually 2 or 3 days from posting. All emails are entered and emails are sent, please check spam if you didnt get yours. Since we are responsible to get these to everyone, I have a horse in the race and this is the safest way. - this prevents couriers from arbitrarily dropping parcels in unauthorized locations , like on steps and under cars or at unknown neighbours - you don't have to be nor arrange for someone to be at home waiting for the courier to come. You can collect it at your convenience. - fewer hands actually handle the parcel so less chance for loss or damage - Proper ID is required to collect it so it will be handed over only to the designated receiver - transit time is reduced. 2 to 3 day service - signatures are required and recorded in all cases Over the years we have lost about a dozen units , and in 4 years only one of these has gone astray. If you did not get tracking, PLEASE do not post here, please PM or email me at [email protected]. Cheers and thank you Sean (Aka RadioGuy) |
Hi Sean and hi to you guys. I've just received my naval star thank you very much Sean. So I may need a little help with 1 or 2 things in the coming days as I have no idea lol :shrug:
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Any problems for anyone with navigation not working. Keep getting looking for GPS signal...
The android checker app picksup 5 or 6 but no location data comes up Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk |
Also nothing when my ipod is connected
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Where is your aerial ? Assume this is the Navigation firmware IGO Primo ? Make sure its firmly connected ........ It should be just behind the head unit and on a Post there. After you check the signal , maybe take it out from there and see if it is getting a clear signal out in the open. Ipod , What is the model , again connections sometimes fall out when pushing the head unit back into place. Cheers |
It's an ipod classic. Usb is working for video and music on a stick.
Is there a GPS antenna included or do I need to buy one. Wasnt on in the box... Cheers Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk |
Received my Navall Star today. Getting underway for the fitting and trying it out. Two questions:
1. There was no manual / instructions in the box. Do I use the Navall 3 one that is available to download or is there a specific Navall 3 one I need? 2. I purchased the wireless reversing camera with the unit. The instructions that come with it seem to be only for the wired version. Are there instructions for the wireless version? I don't want to mess it up by connecting something wrongly. many thanks John |
Picked mine up this morning but won't be in a position to install till Monday:eek:
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Sound better screen better and quicker.... 2.Cant help there but i think you wire up to reverse lights for transmitter and receiver to head unit same as naval 3..... |
Gary
Many thanks for this. Can you tell me how you access the factory settings to input the 1260 code. Thanks John |
Picked my unit up yesterday and got it mostly installed/tested.
One thing that has me puzzled, on my WinCE unit I could look at the reverse camera whilst driving. Unusual I know, but can be handy when towing. Is this possible with this unit. I have tested the DAB unit and I'm very impressed with it, just need a decent place for the aerial to go, anyone have any recommendations? I was hopping to get it right on the rear passenger side window in the ZTT boot. Unless it will hide at the top of the windscreen somewhere. The boot time is incredible, I like how the Bluetooth music shows the track information. Very nice unit to use. |
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For those interested, I have found instructions for the standard aerial (or a very similar one) that Sean sells. Link to instructions here
Windscreen it is then, at least the cable routing is easy. |
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From the transmitter , wire the red and Black to Live and Negative to the reverse lights, Then Plug the transmitter and wire the trigger wire to the red on the extension cable. Then the red at the receiver end to the Pink on the loom. |
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Not in the box? for certain? Have you tried another IPOD? Could be Cable issue? Not connected or broken? |
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I Am consulting with the engineers with this LOUD SAT NAV Voice issue Sean |
Steering Wheel Controls connections
Just to update folks , steering wheel control connections are done er the following if you do not have the plug in adapter on your car.
Green to Blue/Orange on Grey connector and Black to Blue/Pink (Purple) on Grey connector It does not matter in what order you connect Green to Blue/Orange or Blue / Purple etc. Cheers Sean |
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Got mine today! Can you expand on the instructions where you say "Then Plug the transmitter and wire the trigger wire to the red on the extension cable." Is the trigger wire the blue one? Which one is the extension cable? (sorry for being thick!!) Is there anywhere I can find the instructions online? Photos would be great. Also, I notice that the front DVR has no SD card slot. Does the camera record to the media SD? Thanks |
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transmitter plugs to the Rear Camera RCA It records to the Navall Star Directly Default is to the media sd card slot but you can change it in the head unit settings http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...bb46271de9.jpg trigger is the 12VOLT Blue Wire http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...bb68cd61e3.jpg |
I had some spare time this afternoon and decided to have a play around with my unit.
First impressions. Display is great Sound is great Radio reception on FM very clear. Sat Nav again very clear and LOUD. (Went into the various settings both on unit settings and SatNav settings and now all sorted) Overall very pleased with it indeed. A couple of questions. The back button/home button on the touch screen don't seem to work or is it my sausage like fingers? How does the DVR camera work? OBD/ Torque Pro. Can this be let on all the time in the background? Last but not least. Thanks to my neighbours boy I now have a mini disc stuck in the CD slot:mad::mad: Any ideas how I can get it out without a) destroying the unit or b) without breaking his fingers:devil: |
Ive been using mine for a week now and very pleased,very fast,screen brilliant,i only have one but at mo, the Radio skin can it be changed ?
My reason is they have used light coloured blocks with white writing and its very hard to see the freq number stored ? OR can it change the font black against the light colours ? |
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I keep having thoughts of "downgrading" the more I read of how satisfied peeps are with the screen, talking of which GARY....I hope your stylus pen has a rubber type tip, and not one that`s as sharp as a set of darts :eek: Ken. |
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icons in corners or bunched together can be tricky and my finger are only average :} Ken. |
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Sorted, was left on the table and tidied away.
Anyone got a custom launcher running on it yet. Any idea about the iPod classic not working Sean? Quote:
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Oh another thing how can I connect a Bluetooth adapter to this. However there's no Bluetooth options in the android options..
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which setting in particular to sort out the sat nav volume. used mine this week for the first time but had to mute the sat nav as even with the volume at zero it was still way too loud. any way to set the USB drive music player to sort by Artist? it's just showing an alphabetical album folder view, not a big deal but would be nice to sort by different criteria. screen is great , sound is great , sat nav seems to take longer to lock on that the old unit, any ideas? I have the GPS receiver stuck the underside of the dash in the center. cheers marcus |
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The sat nav volume buttons are in the settings option. I also went into the general settings and reduced the nav volume. The lady is now quite easy listening lol |
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marcus you said you have to go into settings to get the steering wheel controls to work. Please can you elaborate. Thanks Jeremy
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from the general settings page from the home screen there's a section that says something like 'SWC' which when opened gives you a full screen menu that you can choose what you'd like controlling. You just press the button for volume up on the scene then touch you steering wheel control and it's set, do the same for down and all the other things are you're ready to go. Marcus |
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Thanks bud wait till i come down there lol. :D |
Manual is ready and more
I Have Just completed editing the Manual for the Navall Star. Ill be sending a general Email this evening notifying everyone , Click here to download your copy.
I have also acquired an OBD2 Manual for those that need it Click Here And the IGO Primo Navigation Manual Click Here |
Thanks Sean. It spoils the fun of pressing random buttons but thanks anyway:D:getmecoat::D
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Any update on the iPod classic issue Sean?
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on my sat nav when the voice it shouting at me I just turn it down on the volume knob and it has a reg volume bar that just turns down the sat nav voice , this doesn't work on tts I don't think but I bought igo from store and its fine with that as with mapfactor
has anyone that has had volume issues tried this ? only works when the sat nav is "talking" John |
Custom wallpapers - Navall Star
I have been able to change the wallpaper on the unit from the small selection that is built in, but would like to add one of my own. Has anyone done this? and how do you do it?
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aturi83 asked -Any idea about the iPod classic not working Sean?
I'm also having the same trouble with the Ipod classic. I have plugged it into one of the USB cables on the rear of the Navall, but when selecting Ipod on the screen it does nothing. Having just read the manual (picture below) it says to use the ipod cable provided with the device. Is this different to the USB cables? http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...5&d=1470310385 |
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Straight forward upload to the sd card put in slot, go and browse it find your picture and top right will allow you to set it as wallpaper.. |
Havant looked yet, but whenever i turn on my unit it comes up with some screen about editing or configuring my memory what is that all about ? shows by sd card etc do i want to eraze ,save space delete etc ? :eek::duh:
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Loud Sat Nav
We are trying to work out this Loud voice issue, the factory engineer has tried to duplicate the issue without success.
A few Questions: 1/. Is everyone having this issue? Or is it sporadic units? 2/. Is it happening only with the IGO supplied or with other Navi programs also? Cheers Sean |
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one thing if you are able to look at is on other sat nav apps .... for example the igo 8 from the market , when it plays a sound it stops the music player working I think it pauses it but it doesn't unpause after the sat nav noise stops , same with radio etc , but if I use tune in radio for example it carry on playing as should can provide vids if you need them Ta mate |
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You know I am having problems with my unit I have tried WAZE "Loud", Copilot (No sound at all) I have just downloaded Sygic and will give you an update on the loudless (if any sound) once I have had time to give it a try. BUT I do use a TTS voice (SVOX or IVONA), I think the non-street annocuments are at a lower volume |
I check mine today and take picture Sean,,,,i have master volume down and satnav volume zero and she stills shouts at me ,but will check again today at some point....
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Here it is ,it seems like its something to do with EZ ? ive tried looking at settings and to no avail.. .ps also my satnav KEEPS SHOUTING AT ME ! |
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Sean, yes I have the loud issue with mine, standard voice (diddnt know there was any other). I only have the igo software that was supplied on the unit. Also alot of the time especially coming up to speed cameras the voice is very slurry and slow....he sounds drunk lol.
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Wish I could help you Guy`s so here is a "stab" "dark" :}
Have it/could it be anything to do with the equalizer if you have one? or anything in your music player settings? Ken. |
My sat nav lady is at an adequate volume. I
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If there is no separate volume to use, you could try downloading another voice. Are you using the US Female voice in TTS settings, select the UK voice or used the PlayStore and download more voices, you may find a softer voice. You could also try a specialised app from the PlayStore to see if that helps, try This one or This one, there seems to be many apps available, worth a try. :} Quote:
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You can add the TTS voice via the sounds and notifaction setting on the unit just look for UK TTS, the unit has Google Text-to-Speach already loaded on the system but it is very robotic. I think you can adjust the volume which and accoucment is being made turn the dolum down and it will should SAT VOLUME in a red slider. |
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Start a navigation path and while the voice talks, turn the volume down which should set the volume with a slider bar. |
Well done some testing over the last few days.
The standard voices can be adjusted with the volume knob, however TTS cannot be, it's not the software I have tried iGo, Copilot and Sygic. Unit set using TTS. iGo is too loud Copilot no sound Sygic is to low can hardly hear anything |
I am following along, I have the factory working on it but as of Friday AM They could not duplicate it.
Ill go back to them on Monday with this new Info. Thanks for everyone's input |
Yeah I've used the original cable, works fine into the pc etc. But nothing at all when used on this...
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Okay this may be me missing something but i cannot find the menu for voice etc...as in this clips menu.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdQYNMGN8xc
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Think ive found it def prefer Primo though easier lay out....:D
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Sorted it i hope, i know in morning when i turn it on,i removed the app it also started to not allow the usb with music on it start straight away, its like it had changed the music to default sd card ? Strange.... |
I haven't been able to get my bluetooth OBD adapters (I've tried two) to connect to the unit. The built in OBD app searches and never finds anything.
I'll be annoyed if this has been restricted to a special type of adapter. I used the sat nav for the first time yesterday and it worked well. Only twice it lost signal, but soon caught up and didn't get us lost. Sent from my LG-H850 using Tapatalk |
I think the OBD service has a specific code preset...I already had one too and havent got it to work.
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Micro SD Card not being recognised
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Popped over to Jeff last Wednesday to have a 'Star' with DAB+ and Reversing Cameras fitted, what a great piece of kit! I'm having a bit of a prob with the SD card not being recognised. At first I think I'd made a mistake (should have read the instructions) in trying to use a 64Gb card, exchanged that for a 32Gb card and still get 'insufficient memory' message on 'Star' when trying to use DVR. Attached is a pic of the card I'm trying to use, any ideas guys? |
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Hi Christopher,
If you go into the dvr app there is a button on the bottom of the screen (can't remember which one but I think it shows a folder type icon) if you press that you can select which SD card slot the unit records to. You will want to select SD card 2 :} |
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No joy yet, I'm afraid! |
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I purchased this one to go in my Navall Star. I used the adaptor that came with it to put into my laptop and copied my music onto it (I didn't format it). Worked first time when I put it in the Navall. It does say Android in the title - but I'm not sure what that really means.
http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...4&d=1470895499 |
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Go into the settings on the DVR app and select the USB option. Works perfectly |
Anyone having problems with intermittent usb access problems. My stick works perfectly or not at all. No problems with it in the computer....
With the iPod problems and no postcode search on the nav, I feel like I've gone back in time. Anyone fancy a navall star? Can have it for what I paid for it.... Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk |
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My music is on usb no problems at all but what i did discover was an app on the unit ez storage i think its called and it kept changing mu usb to sd card.uninstalled app no problems since. |
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In where it says city just type the post code instead ;) |
Anyone have the dash cam on the Star unit?
Mine does not seem to have any zoom facility as the other cams I have had, on the other unit you could zoom in with a menu setting , and also this cam does not as auto wipe out old recording, I have to go onto the SD card and delete the recordings or the unit does not record your present journey. |
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Have you tried the IPOD Plugged to the correct USB, There is Only ONE That is for IPOD. Not just any USB lead . |
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I have just tried this on mine today. I plugged my ipod into each of the three USB inputs to the Navall, but all I keep getting is the loading screen when I select the ipod App. http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...8&d=1471445683 |
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Are you using the Original IPOD Lead? |
It's an Apple lead (white one) that came with the iPod.
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if there is no DAB App installed, is it possible to use the app which comes with the Navall3? Muck |
Does the OBD adapter work with an android phone? If it does its bluetooth code will be set to "1234". The default on the Star is "0000".
Open the bluetooth app on the radio, change the default code from "0000" to "1234". Click on the bluetooth adapter when it finds it. It should then connect without issue. Mine now works with the torque app. Quote:
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Exactly the same as mine does, with all 3 usb leads on the radio.
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Anyone had any luck changing the default launcher?
I've got Nova installed no problem, but cant use any of the stock apps for radio, ipod etc. |
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I'll give it a go with that adapter, however it is not the adapter I want to use as it is too big for use while driving, unlike the Viecar. Sent from my LG-H850 using Tapatalk |
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Button lights are working, the screen shows a faint glimmer of very dim light. Tried an ignition off reset; no joy, tried disconnecting the battery for ten minutes for a cold reset; no good! Given that the buttons are illuminated I imagine there is power to the head unit? It was a long quiet drive! Any ideas? |
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This button blanks the screen;) https://youtu.be/xQGzXaoqqEA |
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I've checked the 15A fuses in the Pax compartment box F22 and the fuse at the back of the head unit; no good! Ideas? |
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If that doesn't get it back into life it does unfortunately sound like it may have a fault . Please let Sean know (if you haven't already) so he can advise further. |
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See if it brings it back in case there wqas a firmware freeze up |
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Re LOUD IGO Issue
We have tried nd tried to duplicate this at the factory without success
I need a Volunteer to try another Igo Program , We will send out an SD Card (No Cost) to someone thats having the issue. Maybe 2 Volunteers? |
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Why does my radio stop when approaching traffic cameras. Just started, did not do before. I did change voice to try and find a quieter one. Would this be the reason ?
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Anyone having problems with the satnav screen blacking out constantly? Goes to the screen showing speed etc. Clicking the bottom brings the map up for 1 or 2 seconds only..
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Suggestions please. |
I wonder if anyone knows how to activate an external microphone?
Looked through most of the settings and I know it's still only using the internal one. Cheers |
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I encountered the following problem with my navall 3. I have a sequential transmission and if i connected the canbus and put my 'gear stick' in drive, the screen went black, no respons and no sound. maybe that could be the problem, maybe it could be the same problem, it's searching what could cause this error. (P.S... the problem is solved by Radioguy who contacted the factory for a solution) |
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Let us know which result you have, good luck :) |
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They are just electrical switches. The units for our cars do not come with the canbus interface and just plug in via ISO connectors and a plug in steering wheel connector :} This is the Navall loom for the MGR cars .... http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...psqslkxomr.jpg And this is the opposite connectors in our cars with the exception of a few that use the 17 pin round BMW connectors instead...... http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...pszhr05kvs.jpg |
I have the Navall 2, is the Star literally plug and play or are wiring changes needed?. Thanks, John.
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Update
We have the UPDATE to fix the IPOD Issue
Please contact me for the link if anyone needs it [email protected] |
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Thanks, Sean. John.
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Any news on wallpaper sizing ? Everything else is all good...:D
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No difference for me Sean. Card in, restarted, updated no problem. Lost all my radio settings but none of the USB connectors work with the ipod :/
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Hi Sean,
Drop me a copy of the iPod update and I'll give it a try as well Sir:} |
Hi anyone any ideas why Netflix or BBC iplayer only has sound and no picture? My Navall 1 plays OK with Wi-Fi but the Star won't, both have good connection to Wi-Fi.
Plus the built in odb pairs with my elf 237 but no data or change of screen, torque pro connects and works OK. Any tips or ideas welcome, thanks in advance. |
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Does anyone else have the problem that DAB App couldn't start aux in? Everytime I want to hear DAB radio I have to tap on the aux in icon - and yes checkbox is clicked in the settings. Muck |
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Don't think anyone else is using the original (Navall3) Dab receiver with their Star so not sure how good an answer you will get. Remember the app for that was designed for the Navall3 so I would guess the automatic switching to auxiliary won't function because of that. |
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