House Cat. Yah or Nah???
After being around my friend, Sara's kitten. I want one too.
The trouble is, is it would have to be a house cat (because I have security doors going into my flat) The trouble is I cant get it out of my head it cant be good for a kitten growing up to be stuck in the house (my last cat was able to go out doors). I contacted the RSPCA but no luck, unless I want a older cat usually with or with out skin disease. There is a Pregnant Cats Kitten Rescue Centre not far from me. I suppose I could call then to ease my concerns with keeping a kitten/cat indoors. At least it would be loved and cared for. I thought of getting two so they could keep each other company in the flat. Have all the details of the shots, neutering, food etc, from the Veterinary Centre near to me. The boss has some house cats of his own it seems. Any thoughts positive or negative most welcome as I am trying to decide :shrug: :bowdown: |
Its fine, my 2 are house cats having never been outside (apart from when Sheba fell off the balcony as a kitten) and previous ones were house cats too!
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Hi Jay,
At your service Sir. There are certain breeds of cats that are more adept at an indoor life although you don't often see these kittens available at rescue centres. They are usually bred by breeders as they can command good money;) I know kittens are cute but have you considered an adult cat, usually far less destructive and very often we have cats come in that have lived indoors only. They come to us as their owners can no longer keep them for various reasons, usually moving to a home where pets aren't allowed or health reasons. Just a thought Sir but if you do decide kittens then a pair would be a good idea for companionship:} |
We have 6 cats and they are all house cats and they are perfectly happy being in-doors. We only let them in the garden when we are out there so we can ensure they stay safe and they all come in quite happily when we go in. HTH
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I have a cat, we were going to keep her indoors but the older she got the more she was at the window intrigued by the outside world. So we let her outside and she loves it. Hardly in, especially now its summer, loves to hunt and socialise with the local cats. Also loves to socialise via the window with our neighbours indoor cats. I think 2 is a good idea if your keeping them indoors. They are great pets though (on their terms!).
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Anyone else been watching 'tigers in the house' which concludes tonight.I've really enjoyed it,what little bundles of destructive energy :devil:
How do you fancy adopting couple of tiger cubs Jay?:D |
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I've recorded it and I'm looking forward to watching it:} |
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Amazing to see the keepers interacting with the adults at Australia zoo too :eek: |
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Just been roughly sketching out a few ideas to make some 'cat stairs' as I have a balcony on the first floor. They could then go out.
http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...psb84c387b.jpg Cat fire escape. How Much!!!!!!!!:eek: |
I have 2 cats (well the wife does) and i think cats make rubbish pets. If i'd wanted a pet that ruins furniture and you only see it when it wants to eat then i'd adopt a teenager. ;)
With regard the fire escape idea, i saw on the "my cat from hell" tv show they had an outside balcony for the cat made from what look like plastic pvc pipe and netting. Looked similar to a cat version of the kids soft play centres. Might be worth looking into something like that. |
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I can see three problems with us having a cat, two of them being small and hairy ("the children") and the other being the amount of open land here, mining museum and woods around us and seashore opposite, we'd never see the cat again if it got out.
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Think I have now sussed out a plan for some stairs so the cat(s) can go outside from my first floor balcony :duh: :smilie_re:
http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...psc4b7044c.png Phew ;) |
You could always install a lift Jay:D
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/73...e4dc6f8f1b.jpg Or get it a James Bond rocket kit https://sp2.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608...37246&pid=15.1 The cat above unfortunately has devoured Jeffs sprouts |
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I have you know my cats fully appreciate my sprout consumption and the after effects:eek::D
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Or how about just putting a slide down and a long stratch post to get back up :) |
or just throw it out of the window, they always land on their feet even from 4 storey's...
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I have had cats as pets for years. Probably had around sixty within that time. Great pets but they are on the whole independent. I would always go for an older cat as generally they have quietened down and are more affectionate. Kittens are great fun but expect some damage. I had four kittens at one time and into everything from climbing up the xmas tree to see how many decorations can be knocked off and then racing around the lounge using the curtains as a climbing wall:eek:
I tend now to take a cat or two from the CPL and it's good to know they have a good home. Cats will want to be outside climbing and chasing. If they have claws they will climb. Some good ideas there Jay with the steps etc. I'm sure all will work so go with whatever suits. |
I know some people keep cats indoors and say they are ok doing so, but having done indoor and outdoor cats I think they should be let outside. So that they can roam naturally and enjoy chasing birds and mice ect. It's the personal choice of the owner of course but I tend to think that if the cat was the one making the choice it would decide to go outside.
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Well I have spoken to the neighbours in my adjoining flats and they had no problem with me putting a cat flap in the downstairs security door if I decide to get a kitten. I wont need to do this for a few months from getting a kitten. It may be two as the pet rescue centre's sponsors like the kittens to go in pairs from the same litter so I may end up with double trouble;)
I don't know what they do if a cat has a litter of 3 or 5 kittens though??? Will have to investigate a bit further. So I have the option and will probably side on letting he, she, them outdoors when old enough. Thanks for all the replies, it has really been helpful. Jason:) |
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This is our new arrival, Molly... http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...psrastjj5m.jpg |
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Named after the BTCC 'Toca' which is short for Touring Cars:} She used to sit on my lap watching it on the tv, this was back in the day of all the major manufacturers taking part and the likes of Leslie, Cleland, Menu etc:} Molly in the bath! http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...psjkv0uk6t.jpg |
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Yep, Jeff, that's why I have thought of calling it TOCA. When I lived in Plymouth I had endless fun playing TOCA on the PS2 (I can hold my own when it comes to car racing games) As the cat will no doubt be endless fun it seems an appropriate name and sounds good for a male cat imho :} |
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So ended going down the Forza route. Come to think of it I haven't played the x-box for over a year now, even though I bought GTA 5 for it, still in the wrapper. Going to have to pull my finger out :D Ps miaw:turncat:(just to keep on thread:D) |
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If you fancied a trip this way (which you will be next Sunday);) We have this Brother ( long haired ) and Sister who are around 16 weeks old at the rescue:} They make an adorable pair and enjoy cuddles as well as lots of play;) http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps5krsnqaj.jpg |
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http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...psbszs9ooy.jpg Great that you are thinking about black domestic short haired kittens though as they are the ones that get overlooked most of the time! |
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Get a dozen or so Jay, I promise they wont wreck your gaff......................well just look at that little black one how could he ever be naughty with a face like that???:D
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So they wont be wrecking my expensive soft dark brown leather settee suite then Colin :eek::D:getmecoat:(btw welcome back online:}) |
Absolutely not, just look how sweet they are:D
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Was that pic one from the cat sanctuary then Jeff?;)
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My mother comes from Essex, my ex-wife and good friend (mother to my son) comes from Essex so might as well make it a hattrick :D
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My cat started out as a house cat as I lived in a flat but when I moved in with my Mrs, he soon became an outdoors cat. He is still half cat, half sofa though. Truly the laziest cat ever..... (Pepper :D)
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And a few more of the family;)
These were taken about 10 days ago by the way. http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...psip2myned.jpg http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...pskbkvzjir.jpg Mum with them when only a few days old.... http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...psuszgr2t6.jpg |
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Are there just the two left from that litter. Really just want (afford) the one cat but to split them if there is just the two of them left. Put my mind at rest Jeff:panic: ;) |
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They are almost ready to start on kitten food and be weened off Mum. They can't be homed until that has happend;) We prefer kittens to go as a pair when that young but one could go if the others are still there :} |
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Hell, I'd have them all if I had the time, space money:D |
Look at their little faces Jay how could you leave them there
take them all take them all |
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Absolutely fantastic pictures Jeff. I am sold on them;)
Look what they have got look forwards to.... http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...ps63eca29a.png (kittens out of proportion to the tower) At just over 2 metres high they will feel top of the castle:D |
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Why have you still not got a hundred and seventeen kittens...........................You're letting us down:D
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Get on with it man:D
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And here is the leader of the pack.....
http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...ps03ade702.jpg Hope they have got strong claws :devil: :D |
And their names.......
http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...psc12ebdb6.jpg Toca (black cat) and Tilly :cool: |
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And very good names they are as well:} Forgot to say, I got selfies with them as well! Toca and Jeff http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...pseynmdfvn.jpg And Tilly and Jeff... http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...psv7ujgu40.jpg |
Great news guys :} :bowdown:
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Counting the days
Great pictures Jeff. I am sure they are going to be well at home here. Bought the massive climbing frame today from Amazon and having a bit of a redecorate so they will have a comfortable living space. Going to put some A4 safe reflective plastic 'mirrors' on the wall behind the frame so they can admire themselves.
My massive decorative and functional didgeridoo (oow er missis) is going to have to go from it show place in the living room or be consigned to a fate as a scratching post:eek::D Looking forwards to meeting them:cool: |
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If you want something else that the cats/kittens love get one of the collapsible tunnels they can run through. They are the most played with toys that we have at the rescue, they love chasing through them:} This is our Molly using the one at the rescue before she came home... http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...psme0t7nvx.jpg |
Altogther now
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :bowdown: |
Funny enough Jeff I saw some of them in QD at the weekend but didn't think to much of it at the time. May well now invest:}
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Got one from ebay. 1.5 metres long;) http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...psfbda75c3.png And a large cat sleeper bag which I bet they will sleep anywhere but....:getmecoat: http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...ps449120b9.png Now to put up the 2.2 metre high 'cat castle' :D http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...ps63eca29a.png Pm sent Jeff |
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It will be like 'puddy tat' Alton Towers at yours;) |
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http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...psc7b9ef0d.png I am putting up a Harley Davidson wall vinyl just to balance things up in case I bring a bird back and she thinks I am a nutter :getmecoat: (thinks is better than to know:cool:) http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...ps69301c78.png |
Grand opening.
The cat tower is up and now ready to let :D Can't build outwards so it has to be upwards. Hope Toca and Tilly like it.....;)
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Should be seeing them tomorrow after the motor racing. I'll show them the photos of their new home and adventure equipment ;) |
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Our little Molly is now settling in well and loves her new pal Jo Jo:} http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps7pymldds.jpg |
Oh I do love a happy ending :bowdown::D
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Was that in the biblical sense ?:eek::getmecoat: |
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Evening Jay,
Your fluffy two say hello and they can't wait to meet you and see their new home:} http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...psyeyk7hfr.jpg http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...psdnfkbzsm.jpg http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...psixpowdvz.jpg http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...psnnb9pjpp.jpg http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...psnvg9hhzb.jpg http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...pszpkuh9cx.jpg |
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Thanks for that Jeff. Excellent stuff. great pictures of the puddy cats. Looking forwards to having them over to stay :bowdown: |
Two beautiful kittens there, they are going to be real bundles of fun. The dark one is very much like my cat Sasha. A black tabby but has a very pale underfur almost the colour of a lilac point Siamese.
Great to see two cats going to a good home.:} |
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...."and to help their development".......and mine Jeff:D |
Thanks Jay I will. I'm not so good on the pc but will give it a go. my daughter took a smashing photo a couple of weeks ago so will try to get that one transferred from her Ipad.
Enjoy your kittens Jay they are going to keep you on your toes as they look as though they are up for some mischief!:eek: |
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That one has mischief written all ove his face!!! :D |
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Any excuse for one more photo! http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...psayqblxrq.jpg Or two!!!! http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...pshzwvgwyo.jpg This was taken last week but gives you an idea of their sizes ! |
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More pictures don't need excuses Jeff:D |
Score is equal at the moment with photos you have posted Jeff :bowdown:with Toca at 7, Tilly at 7 (and Toca and Tilly at 3) ;)
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Nearly always they go as pairs for the same reasons;) http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...pshkalt5pe.jpg |
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They will have a great life at yours and I do hope I get a chance to pop and see them at some time once they are all settled in;) Forgot to ask, Ros wondered where you bought the corner activity unit from? |
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Activity centre was from ebay here:smilie_re:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cat-Tree-S...item3f3143fa06 And in Grey http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cat-Kitten...item4180f42bad And other types of Activity centres http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_sa...y+Centre&rt=nc :} |
The design isn't the best practically for one reason. how they get from the points marked.
http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...pse25a96d2.png I'm sure getting up will be less of a problem than getting down. Can see some issues there although perhaps the right bowl shape snug is to catch them if it goes a bit Pete Tong :D |
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Have sent the link to Ros as she fancies a big one........no not that:eek: an activity centre;) I'm off to bed now so catch up tomorrow :} |
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:D Yeah, night Jeff. And no, I didn't stay up to stupid o'clock yesterday trying all manor of ways (one involving a bendy tumble drier tube) so that the cats could access the top part of the activity centre, only to be back where I started:duh::D |
I could look at Jeffs kittens pictures all day
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Playing with Sara's Kitten Flo today. Flo has become really attached to me and me to her. Apparently she looks for me in every room when I am gone. Took a couple of short clips today of us at tactical play and Chillin'. She is learning how to hunt and play and I am learning from her, brushing up my skills for when Toca and Tilly arrive;):D I think I ended up wearing Flo out in the end...... http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...psef764ddf.jpg |
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Good luck in your new home Toca and Tilly:}
Look after Jay for us;) http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...psw6t0icsf.jpg http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...psqdimqcyd.jpg One last cuddle for Jeff!! http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...psqo2wnojb.jpg |
So Jay..............have you moved out into the stair well?:D
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I bought a cat tunnel for Sara's kitten Flo and it arrived yesterday. Here is Flo investigating. Flo loves it. Toca and Tilly have a larger one in camouflage with two holes in so they can both stick their heads out at the same time:D |
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I think the flat is now half mine and half theirs for toys, sleeping arrangements and stuff;) |
They'll let you back in for the occasional bite to eat & a cup of tea I'm sure:D
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Two more great photos for the album. Glad they are trained for tunnels. I have two. One for indoors and one for out on the balcony. Their spoilt already:D
Once again thanks Jeff for introducing me to the kittens and keeping me updated with their progress:bowdown:. I feel happy about their story of coming from the rescue centre to mine via yourself and the social forum. One last night of complete peace and quite:eek:........then the fun begins:cool: I will take some pictures tomorrow of them settling in;) |
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:D:D Cable ties work well I find
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I'm on my bed watching the football with both my two large boys taking up all the room. Luckily the other pair ( girls ) are not on here as well! You will have that all to get used to soon:D Quote:
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He's still very good at it....................just wish I could get him to put the new stuff up |
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Aye that would stop their world take over:D
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Toca and Tilly are now in their new home. I collected them from Essex this morning and they were very good in the car on the ride back. There was plenty of space in their carrier.
They are mooching about and trying to find all the hiding places where no one can get to them. Removed them from one place with a plastic spatchelor:D I can see why it is such a good idea to have them in pairs. They are sussing things out together. The odd cry here and there but they seem pretty chilled. Collecting them from the rescue centre. (accidently in Video form) Me and Toca Me and Tilly http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6ea2a250.jpg First hiding point beside the stereo;) http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...ps19393f30.jpg One up One down:D http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...ps388a054c.jpg The important bit...Foooood...:drool4: http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6bbe1f39.jpg They are obviously a bit unsure still but they have got attention on hand:cool: |
Toca (Top) and Tilly having a Kitty treat for being so good in the car (first time sitting on the climbing frame)
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Fantastic Jay :bowdown:
I look forward to reading about their antics :devil::D |
You'll have to watch them like a hawk for the 1st couple of weeks but things will get easier as they learn:}
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Just got back from Cambridge and first thing I did was check that they have arrived :D
Great to see them and you'll just have to watch your feet wherever you go as they will no doubt chase up and down like nutters:eek::bowdown: |
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He is still part cat / part sofa............. :D http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...r/SAM_0003.jpg |
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This one is called Pepper. He's 8 years old now and the most chilled cat I have ever had........
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He does occasionally move off the sofa....... ;)
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Pepper looks cool. I haven't seen many cats with that colouring. I bet he gets loads of tlc. Great pictures:pic:. Btw we both share our second name;)
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You a Carter too then?:} |
Pepper is a lovely looking boy:}
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Yep Dave. My dad had one brother who had no children and 6 sisters. Me and my brother both have boys to carry on our lineage of the Carter name;)
The cats seem to come to life with the smell of food cooking. Jeff, what have you been teaching them;):D |
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We buy it when we go as the cats do love it. Make sure they only have small bits though;) |
Tinned tuna. They go mental for it in our house. :D
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Got up this morning for my usual much needed cuppa and, wait............'Who's drunk all the milk'!!!!!!!
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Toca has started purring now and then when I stroke him. He is the most forward cat as you say. Tilly is almost getting there. She seems quite content though and doesn't need as much reassurance as Toca;) Ps. It is obviously no milk for them. Just water. They don't seem to touch the water much but I guess they are getting hydrated from their wet food. Carole said Felix 'As Good As It looks' so that's what they have got:} |
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Very adaptable things are kittens:D |
We feed our 6 ladies Felix 'Good as it Looks' and the 'Sauce Sensations', they all love it.
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