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Scimdaz 24th June 2020 16:09

Central locking won't unlock (Tourer)
 
The car has behaved itself impeccably for the last couple of weeks but today it won't unlock. I've changed the button cell in the fob and the LED is flashing so I'm suspecting the car's battery? It has never opened manually with the key on the drivers door. Are there any other manual locks hidden away? It's an 02 tourer? Reading other threads I found one suggesting hooking the rear light cluster to a 12v dry cell to feed enough power to the system to trip the c/locking actuator. Would a battery charger do the same ........or do permanent damage to a). Me, b). the car? I would rather not break the drivers' door glass to lift the button, to unlock the bonnet, to charge the battery but....... I'm not sure if there is any other option?????

I'm sure there is - please!

COLVERT 25th June 2020 19:39

Can you open the boot/rear door ??---You will need to, to get at the rear light cluster.

Do you have a tow bar? You can put a power supply in through the socket if you have one.

Using a charger is OK. Just make sure you have the leads the correct way round.

COLVERT 25th June 2020 19:43

I think I saw a post somewhere where the owner removed the undertray and clipped a 12 volt power supply to the starter motor.---:shrug:---Not tried it myself though.---;)

Mike2000 26th June 2020 18:04

Connecting 12 volt to the starter motor works - the AA got me into my car when the battery died, and the drivers door handle was had become disconnected.

COLVERT 26th June 2020 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scimdaz (Post 2821258)
Either I'm doing it wrong (although I can't see what there is "wrong" to do) or the fault is elsewhere sadly Mike.

Try putting the earth lead to a metal part of the engine itself.

This will bypass the earth that should be there already in case it's not working. ie .Broken.

Scimdaz 26th June 2020 20:10

Following Colvert's suggestion I know I had a good earth this time. Clamped onto the bell-housing and when I activated the keyfob the indicators flashed, as they should, but still nothing unlocked. A post on fuses by Dingl200 (apologies if I remember you name incorrectly) says that the central locking on earlier cars (mine is an 02) is controlled by an interior fuse - 14. Surely you would have a split circuit, so they couldn't all die at once - wouldn't you??? Or a failsafe "open" default?

Arctic 27th June 2020 08:50

Bonnet cable access
 
Hi Darren.
You can access the boot cables from within the OS drivers side wheel arch, drop one of the mods a PM and they will pass on how to do it, personally i think it should now be a sticky.

The only reason its not public is due to security but i doubt anyone is going to bother with our old cars now anyways :shrug: hopefully you can open the bonnet add a new battery and the doors will open.

COLVERT 27th June 2020 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arctic (Post 2821389)
Hi Darren.
You can access the boot cables from within the OS drivers side wheel arch, drop one of the mods a PM and they will pass on how to do it, personally i think it should now be a sticky.

The only reason its not public is due to security but i doubt anyone is going to bother with our old cars now anyways :shrug: hopefully you can open the bonnet add a new battery and the doors will open.

Hi there. I think the OP can't get into the car. Also he's not trying to get into the boot.

He's been trying to get a power supply into the system by going in through the main cable on the starter motor but it doesn't seem to be working for him.

I think it might just come to a blown fuse in the fuse box inside the car. BUT as I said he can't get into the car to replace the door fuse.

Arctic 27th June 2020 10:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scimdaz (Post 2820825)
The car has behaved itself impeccably for the last couple of weeks but today it won't unlock. I've changed the button cell in the fob and the LED is flashing so
Quote:

I'm suspecting the car's battery?
It has never opened manually with the key on the drivers door. Are there any other manual locks hidden away? It's an 02 tourer? Reading other threads I found one suggesting hooking the rear light cluster to a 12v dry cell to feed enough power to the system to trip the c/locking actuator. Would a battery charger do the same ........or do permanent damage to a). Me, b). the car? I would rather not break the drivers' door glass to lift the button, to unlock the bonnet, to charge the battery but....... I'm not sure if there is any other option?????

I'm sure there is - please!

Quote:

Originally Posted by COLVERT (Post 2821399)
Hi there. I think the OP can't get into the car. Also he's not trying to get into the boot.

He's been trying to get a power supply into the system by going in through the main cable on the starter motor but it doesn't seem to be working for him.

I think it might just come to a blown fuse in the fuse box inside the car. BUT as I said he can't get into the car to replace the door fuse.


Hi Jon.
Yes i know but in his first post he states ( I'm suspecting the car's battery?) therefore if he get the bonnet open, he can add another battery. or put a charger on it.

The front bonnet cables will not open the tail gate on a Tourer.

Scimdaz 27th June 2020 10:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arctic (Post 2821389)
Hi Darren.
You can access the boot cables from within the OS drivers side wheel arch, drop one of the mods a PM and they will pass on how to do it, personally i think it should now be a sticky.

The only reason its not public is due to security but i doubt anyone is going to bother with our old cars now anyways :shrug: hopefully you can open the bonnet add a new battery and the doors will open.



Arctic, was your comment about opening the boot a typo (or autocorrect "helping" you out)? If you mean opening the bonnet - yes I have that info from the subscribers site.

But, as I appear to have power (lights flash when fob is activated) by clamping onto the starter and bellhousing, would a new battery help anyway? If you do mean the boot this would let me climb through and check the fuses, as well as seeing if anything else has gone down - some sort of general BCU failure????


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