MG Rover Group number plates
I am thinking of getting a ZT and have a private plate to transfer onto the potential new car. So I'll need a new plate for the front and an oval one for the rear. As I am fussy, I would like it to have the MG ROVER GROUP LTD text and the Viking/Octagon logos as fitted to press cars and those direct from MG Rover.
So does anyone know of a company that will do a plate like this? I have heard that recent legislation has outlawed logos from plates but I am sure that a 'show' plate in the standard font will go unnoticed. |
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I've been trying to get the same thing made up but haven't had any luck as yet. Hang on I will just get a pic... |
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I've been trying to get the same thing made up but haven't had any luck as yet. This is what you and I are after isn't it? http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...7efc040847.jpg |
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I think you will have an issue getting number plates like these made as the legislation is very clear as to what you can display on a plate.
You could get around it by having "Show Plates" made but these wouldnt come with the BS number on them. Whether or no you would get picked up for it on a mot is another matter (can see the Police pulling you as long as the spacing / font is correct) |
Send an e-mail to Gill @ Designaplate with exactly what you want, nothing was too much trouble for them.
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Do you think MOT testers are more vigilant for the BS number on post-2001 cars? They were obviously legal at some point because the press cars had them - the 'no logo' rule is very recent. |
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But there are always some that are more efficient than others :) |
Gill has mocked up the plate for me. Can anyone clarify the following:
Click on the image below for a full size version: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...th_N700NJS.jpg |
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The Rover logo should be the older style one, the MG badge is fine though. Under 'MG Rover Group' there should be the post code B31 2TB. This is the correct font I believe :smilie_re: http://www.identifont.com/find?font=P22+Underground+Pro |
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Why all the hullabaloo. If all you fail your MOT on is a B.S mark on your plate the I'd call that a result. I have never had plates with a B.S mark or suppliers address on them and I reckon as long as the font, spacings and the colour is correct then they won't get a second look. Take your car in a month early for it's MOT then if it passes you have 13 months MOT if it fails you have a month to get some new plates. ;)
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just keep the old plates in the boot.you can change them if asked
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However, this font is a fairly accurate representation for free.. :) http://www.fontspace.com/jonathan-paterson/london-tube |
Hi guys - thanks for supplying info on the fonts - those examples both look better. I think they have used Arial and then fiddled with the font size to get the title case look. If the proper font is used, MG Rover Group (i.e. title case) will translate into the correct sized lettering and the letters 'over' and 'roup' will be slightly smaller capitals.
The supplier won't put a postcode or BS number on them which is fair enough so in that respect they will be show plates. However with the correct UK79 lettering I don't envisage any issues with the MOT. Old plates in the boot won't work though - they will have a different registration because I am buying these plates because I am transferring a private plate :) I will get back to Gill and suggest that she uses the fonts provided above. |
The MOT test for numberplates has been tightened up recently, apart from the general layout - spacing, odd bolt heads etc., on vehicles first registered on or after 1st September 2001, they check that the registration plates:
Display the name and postcode of the supplying outlet. Display a BSAU145d marking. Do not display a honeycomb or similar effect background. On a dual purpose registration plate, only an acceptable international symbol or flag is displayed. So you may need a 'normal' set at MOT time. |
Actually I'm not sure you know.. I don't think the font on the P22 site i.e Underground and the London Tube fonts are correct...
I think the plate supplier is more accurate in the representation as far as I can tell in your images.. Compared... http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...d794c89076.jpg http://www.birminghamuk.com/BrumFoto...ngbridge_m.jpghttp://www.birminghamuk.com/wikipedi.../mgrovergp.jpg Look at the R and P's the top portions are elongated, they are not in either of those two fonts. The bottom of the U is also elongated and not in those fonts. Although I would say the G is probably more accurate in the font sets. http://www.fontspace.com/preview/cha...449c59e065.pnghttp://www.identifont.com/samples/p22/Underground.gif |
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That is a very useful comparison Swampster - I haven't sent the email yet so I'll just ask about the Rover logo.
The other issue about the BSAU145d mark and the name and postcode of the supplier is a bit of a conundrum. If I could get anything on the net, I'd have that mark and the postcode to be added too - but they have said they won't do that. I can understand their concern but in this particular case they could put the Longbridge postcode on as the supplier is no longer in business. Presumably MOT testers simply check the information is there - they don't verify that the supplier named actually produced those plates. I may try to see if I can get them from Ireland as then the supplier won't be covered by UK legislation. What I really want is a properly legal plate that won't cause issues at the MOT. I don't want to be swapping plates over or having to carry a spare set. |
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Had a go at amending the image.
I have done the Rover logo and the postcode: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20..._n700njs-1.jpg Now I have to to add the BS marker and... get someone to make plates just like this so I don't get hassle at MOT time. |
To be quite honest I think it's all a bit ridiculous where you can't get plates made up that are almost identical to plates by the manufacturer or dealership, simply because of some retro-active law. |
Took my car for the MOT yesterday, to the same place it went last year, and they pointed out my plates and asked if I had another set for the MOT, I said no and explained it had passed last year. Their reply was "if asked it was not tested with these plates" so next year will need to make sure I have a legal pair. Been running cars with this plate for years and first time its caused interest, so maybe hotting up. See pic below for spacing,
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Well my beloved L Jay passed her MOT just about a month ago with her original plates on. The plates pre date the various marks and are totally plain! She still passed though!:D
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The regulations about BS marking, postcode etc., only apply to number plates on vehicles registered after 1st September 2001 and new number plates fitted to pre 2001 cars.
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That is right Ray. My car was first registered in September 2004 which is why I am concerned about this.
I have now found an eBay seller who is advertising Rover 75 plates that are 100% legal with the postcode and BS marker. I have contacted them to see if they can put the MG ROVER GROUP text on them. |
MG Rover plates update
Update on this - I have just ordered some from an eBay seller who is going to supply a fully legal set of plates with the postcode and BS marker and the MG Rover Group text and logos.
The only compromise I will have to live with is the postcode is that of the suppliers rather than Longbridge but it should be tiny so I am happy with that. When I get the plates I'll post some pictures and details of the supplier. |
Plates arrived this morning with:
MG ROVER GROUP text Rover and MG logos BSAU marker and Longbridge postcode! Bonus! I am just off to get some sticky fixers so I can put the plates on the car. I'll post an image of the plates a bit later. |
Super! If you could post the details of the supplier that would be great! And of course some pics :D
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i'm interested too,if you could supply us with the the details,price etc.
also looking forward to the pictures. |
Okay, pictures as promised. This is a close up on the logo:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...h_SDC11283.jpg This is both plates before they were fitted: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...h_SDC11290.jpg This image also shows the new grille badge just before I fitted it to the car. This is just resting on the plates in this shot but I have included it because the text is slightly more clear than in the second image: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...h_SDC11292.jpg The two plates and the badge are now on the car which makes the car look a lot fresher. The old badge was very faded. The MG Rover Group text is not 100% accurate but it is pretty close - and I should sail through the MOT with the BS marker and the Longbridge postcode. Want some plates like this? Check out seller hardridden on eBay http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/hardridden/ - they are just £11.95 for the shaped rear plate and £9.95 for the front one including P&P. |
thank you for amending the post matthew.
the item number which was previously placed on the post would not link to the item. |
received mine in the post this morning,great quality and brilliant communication from the seller.
with having these plates made up with my cherished number they will go on my next 75/ZT..when and if i decide to sell my current car. please excuse the picture taken on my iphone. http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/u...964/001-13.jpg |
has anyone tried DemonPlates.com ?? they will put just about anything on a plate and do shaped plates
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Agree with you on the A1 comms from the seller - and both plates for under £22 is a complete bargain. |
i mentioned to the seller about the club logo for the bottom of the plates,he had no problem with this,he only requires an image and the dimensions you require.
again the communication with the seller is superb and his prices. |
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I've just had a set with borders around each plate. Truly excellent communication, very nice bloke and the plates arrived next day! Couldn't fault them:D |
My ZS had 'show' plates from fancyplates with the UK flag, a border and a little MG logo but no bs mark or postcode and it passed 3 MOT's with them on without so much as a mention :)
To be fair I used the standard UK font and only slightly messed with the spacing by putting a double space in rather then a single but as long as your sensible they don't seem to mind http://www.reedham.org/images/ZStrack1.jpg |
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The seller is now making me up a set of plates with the facelift Rover/MG logo to go on my Limo. So both logos are now available - the older longship version for pre-facelift cars, and the newer stylised one for the later cars. Great :D! |
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What would have been at the bottom of the plate as new in 1995? As it wasn't MG Rover Group then? I have 'Evans Autos' now. :/ |
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I've always wanted 'factory plates' on my 05 ZR and they would look great on the 260 too. What is the process you went through Gents, and as both ZT and ZR are 04MY, i'd like the later Viking Ship logo too. Many thanks chaps. Dougie. |
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seems that these are creating a bit of interest,look back in the thread, the ebay seller is very accommodating if you would like to order.
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Ordered mine last evening, email today they're on the way - wanted new plates anyway as fed up with supplier name different on front and rear where a previous owner has had just one replaced, reason for that unknown. Will keep originals in boot and at MoT time, any problem, sticky tape will sort in no time.
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Just about to order a set of these for my ZT.
Can't decide if i want a border or not though... |
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Borders look good :D |
i decided against a border,thought they would look a bit fussy..
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Yep me too I got a set. Guy who makes them is very good and the finished product looks so much better than some old car sales place or in my case a leasing company. When I emailed him he said he had made quite of few of them so it looks like these are popular.
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Just to follow up on this ordered the plates on Wednesday night arrived with me on Friday 9.00am.
Superb service and communication from the seller and good quality plates. |
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And here is a set of plates with borders and the new Rover logo. Ordered and paid on Tuesday, arrived Wednesday 08.45 am. Ken is a very pleasant chap to deal with, has always been very helpful. http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...4dcc77f76a.jpg |
Just seen this again when I clicked 'New Posts' - so I looked at the sellers feedback and he has been doing a brisk trade in Rover 75 plates!
I suspect he is now getting used to being asked 'can you do them with MG ROVER at the bottom?' |
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When I ordered mine,a few pages back on the thread..I mentioned to him in the email that he would be kept busy with a few orders from the club
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Thats exactly what i do I leave them in the boot and if they insist then i change them while they are checking something else I have never failed an MOT because of my number plates even though i have a football club badge to the left . The font is as it should be and i reckon thats why i have passed |
Good work on getting these made up, but are you sure the logos used are correct? The Rover badge looks far too dark, and I'm pretty sure the MG badge used is totally wrong. It looks more of a 1980's style MG badge. The text looks spot-on, however.
I'm prepared to be corrected, but it's not how I remember the 'original' and genuine MG Rover Group plates to look. |
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It must be me, but I thought that the MG logo that you've got in your signature was the one that featured in all the corporate branding - including these number plates. I still reckon the one used looks a bit too 80's. |
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Ken will make up two types of plate. You can have the 'Old' Rover logo as shown in pabs signature. I've had plates made up like this for pre-facelift cars. He will also do the 'New' Rover logo which is shown in the two bordered plates in my last post. This are relevant to the facelift cars which used the newer logo on all the badges. Yer pays yer moneys and yer makes yer choice :D |
:bowdown:just had mine today .they look great on my car .what excellent quality plates . ken is a great chap .would recommend to anyone ..
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Ordered mine late on Thursday evening - arrived this morning at 10.00 am. Really nice - just waiting for the rain to clear up and will then fit them. Great communication from Ken, and fantastic service. Good to know that there are still people out there who provide a good service at a very reasonable price.
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Ordered myself a set, where did you get your tape to fix these
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http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...be67637163.jpg
The "correct way" to stick a number plate on.....;) Leave a gap at the bottom of the "V"'s in case water does get behind the plate. HTH |
Ok thanks for that and thanks for the link Jim
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Plates arrived today along with tape Jim linked to, great quality an well worth the money.
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Ordered a set of these yesterday from Ken, thanks to the links, arrived today. Got the pre-facelift logos with borders and the plates look pretty damn good. Just awaiting some tape now...
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Even the guvnor Reebs has a set of these on order I believe :cool:
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[UPDATE] Delivered today. I just quoted the reg number in the photo above for the style of the plate, plus my actual registration - £24.99 for the pair delivered. |
Hardridden is his E-Bay username. I contacted him directly with my requirements and he was spot on.
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I ordered mine Sunday night and got them Tuesday morning, great quality and quick delivery. I dont like the facelift badges so I had Ken put the pre facelift logo on mine.
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When i put my private plates on i had them made up by Hardridden that was about 4 or 5 years ago. When they arrived they were perfect spot on quality BUT now they are starting to break down especially the rear smiley plate the yellow backing is starting to separate from the perspex and water is getting in along the bottom .....Hopefully its just a one off |
tbh for the price he charges if they last 3 years I will be happy.
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The ebay seller is called Ken and his direct contact details can be found here if you'd rather deal direct than on ebay, I communicated all via email. :smilie_re: www.yourplates.co.uk I also asked him to produce a set of plates with the Club Logo on them, which he did once I supplied him with the official artwork. http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...platefront.jpg http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...bplaterear.jpg When asked if these would be road legal and pass an MOT, he suggested that as long as there is a valid postcode and plate maker code displayed he saw no reason why not. Until the next MOT, I won't really know for sure, we can but see, but buyer beware as neither I, nor he, nor the Club will be held responsible for any issues you may encounter should you decide to invest in a set. He has the artwork on file now, you just need to supply a valid postcode (I have obscured the one on mine for display purposes only) If anyone wants to take a closer look at the plates he did for me, I will be bringing them to the National Meet on Sunday :cool: |
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I suspect as long as the font and spacing is correct, I doubt an MOT tester would look much further. Mine passed 2 MOT's without any problems. |
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Just Ordered My Set :)
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Hi This is great i have had my personal plates for two months now but could not get them made up with rover logo now i am of to order some is it best to get in contact direct or through ebay ?
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Will they put anything you like on the plates? The only reason I ask is because I have the original dealer plates on mine and they are becoming a little tired. I would like to keep the original look as it has the keyring to match etc.
Thanks, Gary |
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Good stuff. Will give them a try :D
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Hi Arctic
Ive just ordered some, no problems, try emailing him at [email protected] thats the paypal I have just used. Simon |
Just a caurtionary note ref the number plates with the club logo on. As we know number plates are supposed to show the supplier's name and postcode and all suppliers are registered with the dvla if we make the plates look like the club are supplying numberplates we could be in trouble?
I dont think your average MOT tester would be bothered but the VOSA boy's are a totaly diferent bunch. As for the MG rover ones i think that it is possible to get away with those as the company existed and now there wouldn't be anyone to check the plate with!! Just an observation off a newbi, if i get hold of the ZTT i am off to look at on friday i will be ordering a set of the MG ones when i get my private plate on. |
Mine arrived and now fitted...look very good, would post pics but I`m sure you dont want to see a pic of number plates.
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Got mine today as well and look really nice with the MG ROVER GROUP logo on them :)
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Finally got round to giving the car some attention, full clean and polish outside aswell as fitting the plates.
I never thought the rectangle plate looked that bad on the back of my ZT, but the smiley plate makes such a huge difference! |
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I on the other hand have no issue whatsoever, with small logo's at the footer of a number plate.:rant::rant::rant::rant: GRR. Brian. |
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Well impressed by both the speed of delivery, and the quality is not shabby either. Brian. |
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Hey these look great. I was wondering if anyone remembers the cars that came out of the MG Xpower Sport and Racing building had different plates. No Logo's I think just the words MG Sport & Racing across the bottom. Anyone any ideas on these?
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Cheers Brian. |
On the subject of number plates, another couple of my fleet, both registered as Rover Group Operation pool cars, 1 day & 90 cars apart.
I might just get some new plates made for these, with the MGR logo on the bottom of the plate. http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...brian/crop.jpg I have to say I only bought the tourer, because of it's number. Brian. |
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With regard to number plates, we will always differ, by my number is clearly read as P80 VER. My point about the MOT literally was just a note not a complaint, and I will be aware of that for the next MOT. Do you have Marinas? Ian |
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just ordered mine with ken. Ive had no borders, no flags etc, old rover logo coupled with the mg-rover group lettering and longbridge postcode.
it came to £24.44 which includes 1st class postage aswell. ill post pics up once fitted to the car. cheers, si |
Hi, i got plates for 2 ZTs so far both being the right size to full the area on the boot, they came from ebay with no borders, no flags and no logo and all have passed mots.
I cant stand the way dealers have their names in your back window as well as your plates, my car is not a free advertising and the 1st thing i do then i get a car is remove them! |
got some from that a ebay seller although the smiley plate is actually not the full width of the boot it still looks ok.... had i known this i wouldnt have bothered- it's actually a lot smaller than the "proper sized" one i had on
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Hi there, I noticed that everybody gets hung up on the style of the Rover logo, but it is the MG logo imho that is wrong. The original MG Rover logo had an MG logo that was full colour, like on the pylons, golden, with red lettering and border. The "replica" ones discussed here are all see-through, the yellow of the plates (or white for that matter) is coming through.
Even more so, I am wondering, the only reason for me to want MG Rover Group plates (and I would) is to bring my car somehow back to its origins, as it had orignally been registered by MGR for about a year. But then using private plates, cherished plates or whatever, N reg'd 75's which have only been introduced as S models, that kind of makes the pretend-original MGR logo look like a fake from the outset, or not? |
I think they are a close enough example of the original artwork used..which I have seen.
Members are using these plates as a nice way to bring up their number plates from obscure car dealers logos and damaged plates..At the price the seller has made these available,they make an attractive purchase. |
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Indeed, and that is why I am thinking of getting some myself. But I am also thinking of getting private plates. And for me - just for me, in my own opinion - both don't work together.
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Here's a picture of the real thing,if you can zoom in on them they are obscured by the guys hand..
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Wandering slightly off topic, my son was stopped a few years ago when he passed a police car on the inside on a dual carriageway. He had 'special' (rude!) numberplates and the policeman, determined to book him, said they were missing the BS mark and so were illegal. My sharp eyed son played dumb and asked the policeman to show him what he meant on the police car. It didn't have any and the embarrassed policeman immediately wished my son a safe journey home!
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My ZT 190+ has these plates on it, as it's an ex-MG Rover Group car, does anyone want me to post a picture of the back plate to check fonts etc?
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Well on the MOT front technically my plates shouldn't pass as they came from fancyplates and don't have the postcode etc on however they have now been on 4 cars and I'm yet to have one fail the MOT because of it. Of course I've had cars fail on plenty of other things, just not the plates!
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I am considering getting a set of plates from hardridden as I haven't got a smiley plater for the rear and I need a spare rear plate anyway to go on my bike rack, so two birds, one stone :)
Can anyone confirm that the plates are the clear perspex type with the yellow/white backing and not the other type where the perspex is opaque and the yellow/white plate is stuck on the front. Many thanks. Hope I have explained that properly! |
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Just a regular number plate..as you would expect.
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Nothing to do with overtaking the car in front that was dawdling along at 30mph in a 60mph area on a clear road at 10:30pm then! As it was dark and the kids were sat in the back watching the DVD screens I had the sun blind screen up. We where coming back from celebrating one or their birthdays. The policemen’s whole manner changed when they got level with the back of the car and saw the kids and the MacDonald’s wrappers and drinks etc They checked the whole car over and found nothing wrong except for no BS mark on the front number plates. This is when they first told me about the non reflective front number plate and that they were having a clamp down on illegal plates. I was told I would need to get the plates changed and if I didn’t I would lose the right to use the private plate reg. The spacing and font are all standard. After they finished all this I pointed out that the car was first registered in July 2001 and this applied from September 2001 and wasn’t retrospective. All they said was thank you and have a safe journey. The same plates have now been on the car for around 5 years now. |
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So brand new Rover 75s (or in my case an MG ZT) wearing an N-registration (or any other registration of a year earlier than that of manufacture) will always have been possible. I didn't do this because I bought the car second-hand but my car was also originally registered by MG Rover. Furthermore, if MG Rover were still in business we could all be buying replacement plates directly from them - so 'pretend-original' and 'fake' is a little unfair. You may be right about the MG logo, though. I think I raised this way back in this thread and was reassured the see-through logo was correct. However, life is too short and they look considerably better than the plates that the car came with, which I had to change anyway when I transferred the cherished plate from our old car. |
I have just contacted Ken about these plates.
I attached the picture of the real thing, from earlier in the post and gave him all the details. I'll post back with current pricing and then how they turn out, they look good though. David F |
Just bought some from Ken, fast efficient service, well pleased with the plates
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When I asked Ken to make me up as set of owners club plates, I questioned what was a legal requirement, he suggested that as long as there is a valid postcode and plate maker code displayed all should be fine. Well my car has passed its MOT without incident with the postcode / plate makers number on. Just a word of caution, the above plates don't seem to have these, so you might come unstuck, depending on the MOT tester ;)
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The 1st thing i always do then i get a new car is remove all stickers from windows and then order a new set of plates without any postcodes etc.
Theres no way im having any companys advertisement on my car! I done this for the last 20 years! http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/x...cture001-1.jpg |
Just ordered the number plates from Ken.
The details are below. His email is [email protected] The website is www.yourplates.co.uk or his ebay page http://stores.ebay.co.uk/hardridden?_trksid=p4340.l2563 I paid with paypal after giving him the info below and my REG. ROVER 75 REAR LP101 FRONT OLD MG ROVER LOGOS AND LONGBRIDGE POST CODE POST: 1ST CLASS UK SHIPPING: GBP 0.00 GROSS: GBP 25.89 I'll let you know how they are when they arrive. |
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dampness got into it made it look really tatty and did nothing for the aesthetics of the car....I ended buying a replacement rear plate from another seller ive had no probs- since |
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I had a problem when i ordered some plates for my van ..When they arrived they had my cars reg on them at first i thought it was my mistake but when i went back through the order details it turns out my order was correct but the seller insisted he sent the plates with the reg i ordered . I could not be bothered to argue so like i said i went else where |
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They do look great, but, they do seem to be a solid black plastic with evrything stuck on the fron, so as you say nick nick, may not last so long, only time wil tell. I was thinking of clear varnishing the edges, to try and seal them a bit, maybe clear nail varnish? Don't tell the missus! |
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ignore me.... think I've just answered my own question :o)
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Varnish is no good it will only become brittle and break up ....Try some weather proof tape |
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Well I've joined the gang........great service and appear to be very well made... I dealt direct rather then through ebay |
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Hardridden must thinking to himself ''Whats the fuss with these MG Rover plates'' As you say,great service though. :) |
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I needed plates so might as well have a set:D:D:D:D:D:D |
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Thanks for the recommendation :)
Since I bought my car I've been unhappy with my rear plate, it's a normal rectangular one stuck to a smiley one, yes it looks as dodgy as it sounds. After fitting new LED number plate bulbs (£1.45 delivered from China for a pair!) the extra light showed the plate up, and also a few rust spots on the boot lid itself along the top edge of the plate. I ordered a new plate which arrived a couple of days ago. I've just been out and removed my old plate, sorted the rust out and fitted the new one. It looks cracking now :) Old one. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0...5/IMAG0940.jpg New one. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8...-40-51_HDR.jpg |
Massive improvement..:)
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Yes Tony, that makes all the difference to the look of the car. :cool2: I wish all 75's and ZTs had smiley rear plates - just as the designers had originally envisaged. :cool:
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Mine have arrived from Hardridden this morning. Ordered at midday yesterday excellent service. Recommended.:)
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I can add my thorough recommendations - ordered plates from Ken Tuesday afternoon, delivered on Wednesday morning.
Can't wait to get them fitted! p.s. can one use white spirit to clean bodywork prior to attaching waterproof double sided tape? Or is it too harsh a fluid? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/10...n/SDC15325.jpg |
I have got two set from Ken now. Brilliant plates...Brilliant service...
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I need to get some new plates as my ones are going.
So next mod new plates lol. :D |
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£25.89 delivered.
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If you only you paid as well as replied for me :D
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