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b_1_rd 4th May 2017 17:38

Playing with settings
 
Messing about with the camera and lightroom. I'll try this one again with the lights on and a more neutral background and probably best not on a bright sunny day! But it's a start. :}

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4178/3...aa879490_b.jpg20170504001 by Steve Bird, on Flickr

b_1_rd 4th May 2017 21:21

I prefer the one above, but here is one with the lights on taken a little later which I think has lost too much of the detail.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4161/3...4a61b0fa_b.jpg20170504002 by Steve Bird, on Flickr

coolcat 4th May 2017 21:30

First one has it for me but they are both very good indeed:bowdown:

Canonite 5th May 2017 04:23

Your camera will capture more information in the highlight pixels than it will in the shadows.
As long as the highlights are unclipped you'll be able to expose as you did in the top photo, then reduce the highlights in Lr

b_1_rd 5th May 2017 08:59

Yes absolutely. I will have a bit more of a play with things.

I think this was because the second shot was taken 3 hours later and the natural light was much lower which lost the detail around the car.

Need to get out to a better location really, these were just quick shots that are taken on the drive which has a high fence one side and the house on the other which throws some distracting shadows and reflections. The Garage door behind is white which is not ideal.

Seanalf 5th May 2017 09:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by b_1_rd (Post 2487450)
Yes absolutely. I will have a bit more of a play with things.

I think this was because the second shot was taken 3 hours later and the natural light was much lower which lost the detail around the car.

Need to get out to a better location really, these were just quick shots that are taken on the drive which has a high fence one side and the house on the other which throws some distracting shadows and reflections. The Garage door behind is white which is not ideal.

Have you tried a CPL filter? They can be great for taking out reflections and odd light. Work best when the camera is 90 degrees to the light.

Rocket 5th May 2017 09:37

Or take 2 exposures whilst using a tripod - one for the lights and one for the car, then merge them together in software - some cameras will do this in body. It is a tough shot with that high dynamic range.

Seanalf 5th May 2017 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocket (Post 2487471)
Or take 2 exposures whilst using a tripod - one for the lights and one for the car, then merge them together in software - some cameras will do this in body. It is a tough shot with that high dynamic range.

HDR with 3 shots may work, 2 stops either side, but you would have to keep the "detail" element of post production low, or the contrast will be all over the place. I've found the 2 shot will work, but it's a royal pain to get it right in Photoshop Elements. I now have CS6, so I'm learning all over again!

BTW guys, don't know if you are aware, but for those of you using CS6 or higher, Google Nik plug-in is now free and blooming good it is too.

Rocket 5th May 2017 10:22

I was thinking more of 2 layers in Photoshop and then and use a layer mask to limit the effect to the headlight area. Some cameras will allow picking a zone for over or under exposing but I think that may be difficult in the car shot.

I use NIK collection in particular for some of my my B & W - it is a very useful piece of software.



Here is one I prepared earlier.
:}


https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/673/30...4381f638_c.jpg

Rover 75 in B & W
by Paul Stickley, on Flickr

Seanalf 5th May 2017 10:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocket (Post 2487491)
I was thinking more of 2 layers in Photoshop and then and use a layer mask to limit the effect to the headlight area. Some cameras will allow picking a zone for over or under exposing but I think that may be difficult in the car shot.

I use NIK collection in particular for some of my my B & W - it is a very useful piece of software.



Here is one I prepared earlier.
:}


https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/673/30...4381f638_c.jpg

Rover 75 in B & W
by Paul Stickley, on Flickr

Unfortunately, in work I can't view pictures :duh:

Maybe try 2 pics with a CPL then? I have the advantage that with my Canon, it has a 3 stop setting that takes seconds to activate. Loads of my HDR shots that you saw on Flikr were done like that and handheld too. That would be easy for a car on a tripod, beauty is, if one of the 3 shots doesn't work after loading in HDR manager, you can use the 2 layer with mask as well with the normal and under exposures :}

Rocket 5th May 2017 10:53

Maybe using layer masks in a similar way to this video. Adapting this type of technique should permit the great look you had for the car and then the headlights can be merged in.
Not that I am expert in this subject but I have tried it a few times.

I guess you will not see this at work either:mad:



b_1_rd 5th May 2017 11:16

Never really played much with HDR, but yes it seems an ideal subject for it. I'll give that a go.

Seanalf 5th May 2017 11:24

Funny enough, YouTube is fine, as long as it's not dodgy lol

Rocket 5th May 2017 14:40

How about xenons all round:}

Not a very good effort.




https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4181/3...b73f9592_b.jpg

b_1_rd 5th May 2017 15:08

:}

looks pretty good.

Seanalf 5th May 2017 21:06

Much better, great shot!

mh007 6th May 2017 09:58

The first picture is very nice indeed.

b_1_rd 11th May 2017 17:39

Once again, please ignor the reflections but dashed out after the rain for a quick play with the camera.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4187/3...d6400579_b.jpg20170511002 by Steve Bird, on Flickr

b_1_rd 11th May 2017 19:01

and another with a CPL filter, cuts the reflection a bit.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4187/3...57749665_b.jpg20170511004 by Steve Bird, on Flickr

Seanalf 12th May 2017 09:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by b_1_rd (Post 2490875)
and another with a CPL filter, cuts the reflection a bit.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4187/3...57749665_b.jpg20170511004 by Steve Bird, on Flickr

Just had a look at those on Flikr Steve (can't get on in work as it's classed as Social Media!), I did the same a while ago on my black 75, makes a real difference with a CPL.

Have a look at the pictures I've just uploaded of an abandoned RAF base I was at yesterday, a lot of messing about with manual settings to get lower, more moody, exposures. It was such a bright day, I actually had to stop the camera down to f11 for some of the outdoor shots!

Seanalf 17th May 2017 18:21

https://www.flickr.com/photos/seanal...posted-public/

Hope this works

coolcat 17th May 2017 18:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanalf (Post 2493756)

It links you to a photo of dumped stuff in a B&W image on your Flickr account.
If you copy the BBcode then paste it on here the image will show up on the thread ;)

Rocket 17th May 2017 19:48

Like this. Just skip the very first part where he is on a different Forum. Watch from 57 sec


Seanalf 18th May 2017 18:55

Works perfectly Rocket, many thanks!


https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4165/3...fb56aa94_b.jpgReclaiming by Sean Alabaster, on Flickr

b_1_rd 22nd June 2017 21:55

Another go with one of the set I took over near Bristol Airport (from this thread https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s...d.php?t=268594), again just messing with settings in lightroom

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4290/3...9a011b60_b.jpg20170606036 by Steve Bird, on Flickr

Teflon 23rd June 2017 08:17

Love this photo. :bowdown::bowdown:

Cliff


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