The 75 and ZT Owners Club Forums

The 75 and ZT Owners Club Forums (https://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/index.php)
-   Technical Help Forum (https://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=11)
-   -   Front hub nuts - torque question (https://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=306124)

Blink 4th July 2020 11:33

Front hub nuts - torque question
 
I'm replacing the front springs & dampers, plus the top mounts & bearings. I was planning on taking the whole lot off in one go, complete with the hub assemblies - as Jules suggests in post 2 here.

According to Rave though (page 47-2) the torque for this nut is 350Nm or 258ft lbs. Is that right? If so, what does everyone use to undo the old nut?
And how do you re-torque the new one later on? My torque wrench won't go anywhere near as high as 350Nm.

https://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/for...063c094bf2.jpg


Pic below borrowed from Jules (link above).

https://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/for...3100055e47.jpg

rrobson 4th July 2020 11:45

Undo by knocking the tab out on the nut and either using an impact gun or a 3 foot bar and jumping on it if required.
Fitting being a reverse. A good pull on a decent breaker bar will provide plenty of torque. All that’s required to torque to 350nm is 35kg on the end on a 1m bar, or 70kg on a 0.5m bar. Then re-tab.

SD1too 4th July 2020 11:50

Or treat yourself to a torque wrench capable of 350 Nm! :D

Simon

macafee2 4th July 2020 11:55

Is there any reason not to switch the offside and nearside hub nuts over?
I think the staking of the nut will be in a different location.
I use a torque wrench capable of 350nm to torque them up and an electric impact wrench for undoing them, having unstaked the nut first.
Haynes manual also says 350nm

macafee2

Phil-T4 4th July 2020 12:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by macafee2 (Post 2822827)
Is there any reason not to switch the offside and nearside hub nuts over?

Stretch and deformation - you should be using new ones every time you take them off.

Blink 4th July 2020 12:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by rrobson (Post 2822823)
Undo by knocking the tab out on the nut and either using an impact gun or a 3 foot bar and jumping on it if required.
Fitting being a reverse. ....

I've knocked the tab out since that pic was taken. I've already tried my 400Nm impact gun and it doesn't want to know (claimed ratings need to be taken with a pinch of salt). This one might do it but it'll take several days to arrive. I can't get a 3ft or 1000mm breaker bar quickly either. The fastest bar from Amazon is this 600mm - too short probably?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD1too (Post 2822825)
Or treat yourself to a torque wrench capable of 350 Nm! :D

Simon

See above :D.

Quote:

Originally Posted by macafee2 (Post 2822827)
Is there any reason not to switch the offside and nearside hub nuts over? ....

macafee2

I don't understand what you mean.

SD1too 4th July 2020 12:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blink (Post 2822835)
I've already tried my 400Nm impact gun and it doesn't want to know (claimed ratings need to be taken with a pinch of salt) ...
See above

But you're talking about impact guns Simon and you've said that you don't trust the rating. I'm recommending the purchase of a high quality (e.g. Norbar) and accurate torque wrench which I am in no doubt will do both the loosening and tightening. It will also last your lifetime! :D

Simon

Blink 4th July 2020 13:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD1too (Post 2822838)
But you're talking about impact guns Simon and you've said that you don't trust the rating. I'm recommending the purchase of a high quality (e.g. Norbar) and accurate torque wrench which I am in no doubt will do both the loosening and tightening. It will also last your lifetime! :D

Simon

Yes, sorry, that's what happens when I try answering three posts at the same time. :D

Norbar's product selector doesn't come up with any 1/2" results :shrug: https://www.norbar.com/Torque-Result

https://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/for...08329a2e83.jpg

chris75 4th July 2020 14:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blink (Post 2822835)
The fastest bar from Amazon is this 600mm - too short probably?



Try a visit to Halfords . Any kind of tubing slid over the handle of a 2 footer will move the world :}

marinabrian 4th July 2020 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD1too (Post 2822838)
But you're talking about impact guns Simon and you've said that you don't trust the rating. I'm recommending the purchase of a high quality (e.g. Norbar) and accurate torque wrench which I am in no doubt will do both the loosening and tightening. It will also last your lifetime! :D

Simon

A torque wrench must never be used for slackening nuts ever.

I'm surprised at you Simon

Torque wrench HERE

Brian :D

P.S. I use one of these to undo stake nuts, better than a breaker bar any day of the week ;

LINK


All times are GMT. The time now is 20:29.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright © 2006-2023, The Rover 75 & MG ZT Owners Club Ltd