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SirRustalot 22nd September 2014 18:14

Any advice on contesting a speeding fine?
 
Generally, I never speed. I was on my motorcycle on a road I know well and apparently got snapped by a 50mph camera in an area tha drops from 70-50-70 all within about 300 yards on a busy stretch of motorway. Now, I always drop my speed to at least 10mph below the limit when I approach these things 'cos I don't trust them and I'm absolutely positive I wasn't speeding since I slow right down approaching cameras without thinking. To add to that, I had a satnav/camera thing on my tank that flashes when I approach cameras. I remember it all well.

Anyway, they say I was doing 60mph but I highly doubt it. It was a crystal clear, dry day and I was just ambling down the road.

I plan to contest it but having never been done for speeding before, I'm unsure where to start. What's the worst that can happen if I contest it and they decide to prosecute me anyway? The cash fine is outrageous (£100) and I've had a clean licence for ever. Point of note: this particular camera on the A90 near Laurencekirk is infamous for raking in something like 300 drivers a day in fines. I feel there's tomfoolery afoot.

Any thoughts? I'd prefer this from people who have managed to save their cash and licence or from those who have actually gone through the process in any shape or form. Thanks.

Rocky1162 22nd September 2014 18:30

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Originally Posted by SirRustalot (Post 1793698)
Generally, I never speed. I was on my motorcycle on a road I know well and apparently got snapped by a 50mph camera in an area tha drops from 70-50-70 all within about 300 yards on a busy stretch of motorway. Now, I always drop my speed to at least 10mph below the limit when I approach these things 'cos I don't trust them and I'm absolutely positive I wasn't speeding since I do it without thinking. To add to that, I had a satnav/camera thing on my tank that flashes when I approach cameras. I remember it all well.

Anyway, they say I was doing 60mph but I highly doubt it. It was a crystal clear, dry day and I was just ambling down the road.

I plan to contest it but having never been done for speeding before, I'm unsure where to start. What's the worst that can happen if I contest it and they decide to prosecute me anyway? The cash fine is outrageous (£100) and I've had a clean licence for ever. Point of note: this particular camera on the A90 near Laurencekirk is infamous for raking in something like 300 drivers a day in fines. I feel there's tomfoolery afoot.

Any thoughts? I'd prefer this from people who have managed to save their cash and licence or from those who have actually gone through the process in any shape or form. Thanks.

Hi.

It all depends on your licence , and how many points that you already have. However, if you just ignore this, the chances are that they will not pursue it. Police Scotland have the highest SP rate in the UK, and since they streamlined it to Police Scotland, it all happens out of one office. Something like 50 to 60 % are not pursued as they simply cannot spare the staff. If you are one of the unlucky ones, all that will happen is that you will get a letter from the PF, asking you why you never paid, and giving you 10 days to pay. It is usually up to the PF, they could give you an extra point for being late, but again they do not want the paperwork. If you are sitting on no points, or only three points, then I would let it slide, and see what happens. But that is me, what you decide to do is up to you. But my figures are accurate. R

SirRustalot 22nd September 2014 18:45

Never had a point. I''ve got a clean licence and not on any police radar etc. I'm a good citizen.

Interesting advice. I think I'm most definitely contesting it so will wait until the PF letter.

Rocky1162 22nd September 2014 18:54

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Originally Posted by SirRustalot (Post 1793738)
Never had a point. I''ve got a clean licence and not on any police radar etc. I'm a good citizen.

Interesting advice. I think I'm most definitely contesting it so will wait until the PF letter.

I was driving down to Edinburgh late one night a few months ago, and I heard this on Radio Scotland, there was a Police Officer, A Lawyer, a Guy from the AA, and they were lambasting Police Scotland for targeting the motorist. Police Scotland also have 70% more fines than the rest of the UK, and have been heavily criticised in the press and media. As of May 2014, they had already doubled their fines on the complete whole of 2013. Thing is, it only becomes a fine when you produce your licence, and pay the money at your local sherriff court, and if it goes the other way, then "Oh dear, my apologies I completely forgot". They are hardly going to haul you away Capone, lol.
I wish you luck. R

pab 22nd September 2014 18:55

Awarenes course is your best bet..

Vossy 22nd September 2014 19:13

This is your best place ... fight back

Heddy 22nd September 2014 19:23

Surely they will have photographic evidence to back up their claim? Your case will depend on them not. I did a Speed Awareness course (the first time) but it wasn't offered the second time, maybe because I was 'snapped' 10mph over the limit. I found the Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) impossible to ignore, it was time sensitive.:shrug:

Johnny2R 22nd September 2014 19:30

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Originally Posted by Heddycdt (Post 1793798)
I did a Speed Awareness course (the first time) but it wasn't offered the second time, maybe because I was 'snapped' 10mph over the limit.

I don't think it's ever offered a second time, is it? It's a one-off. They evidently have you down now as an incorrigible repeat offender :).

Heddy 22nd September 2014 19:34

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Originally Posted by Johnny2R (Post 1793808)
I don't think it's ever offered a second time, is it? It's a one-off. They evidently have you down now as an incorrigible repeat offender :).

More than likely, it's not as if the slate is wiped, just no action taken regarding a fine and points.

whitevanman 22nd September 2014 19:37

Pretty sure it was every 3 years for the speed awareness course when I did one..


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