I know - that's why I said lower it (or remove it) in post 4.

I removed mine completely because I wanted to drain it (old fuel) and sort out the paint blips on the spot welds.

To be fair Simon, you are the exception rather than the rule in respect of the care and attention to detail in carrying out the work to your car :bowdown:

I replaced these pipes on my dad's tourer last year, the previous owner had carried out an SD1too style shortcut, which had reached end of life after four years.

If you are going to replace fixed brake pipe, it is foolhardy to cut corners, especially as you save perhaps an hour at most, and a couple of feet of pipe.

I remain sceptical of anyone advocating "cleaning up the ends" of pipework, to be as thorough as they claim to be when it comes to maintenance of other items, when such a basic safety critical item is bodged.

Brian :D

Its for the front to rears. Mine are just starting to go at the back where they join.

Many thanks to everyone for all your info and the pics!

I think it'll be a week or two before I start doing the job, I've ordered my brake hoses this morning, and I'll have to find my brake flair tool and blow the dust off it as it's been a couple of years since I last used it!

I'll let you all know how it goes!

Richard

The previous owner would not have worked to my high standards so your comparison is invalid.

Simon

No of course not Simon, but they did a half job, exactly like you are advising others to do Simon, and if your standards were that high, you would have completed the job ;)


I thought the mantra was "doesn't do things by halves", I'm afraid you have failed to do the job fully, missed the opportunity to make the car's braking system fully sound by virtue of "dressing up" the grotty ends of not only the front to rear pipes, but also the front pipes where they pass through the grommets in the inner wings.

It's called "spoiling the ship for a ha'porth of tar" and to advise others to do likewise will make you appear slipshod, not to mention having to do the job twice ;)

Do it right first time, do it once and relax, no more wire wool and grease at MOT time ;)

Brian :D

Oh dear, another diatribe of utter nonsense. :o I will have to put you right, yet again. Sigh.
I don't advise others to do anything Brian. I impart my experience and let others make up their own minds. I am not a dictator like you.
That's correct.
Ahh, you don't understand the philosophy. "Not doing things by halves" means repairing what is broken, no less and no more, to the highest standards. Your approach is blanket renewal at a high cost in both time and parts. That is not intelligent or cost effective.
On the contrary, my braking system is absolutely perfect at a fraction of the cost in time and money of your practice.
I don't have any "grotty ends" and my front pipes are in excellent condition due to my high standards of maintenance.
It's called efficient maintenance in financial and engineering terms. Those who choose to follow my example will keep their cars running for longer at a fraction of the cost of your wasteful and unnecessary practices.
Exactly as I recommend.
I use neither on brake pipes.

Now put your keyboard in a drawer and do some thinking for a change.

Simon

......... your understanding of this phrase explains a lot.

Your experience based upon a sample of one car Simon, mine is based upon many times that number, and I certainly don't dictate, I merely advise accordingly to the cumulative experience I've gained over the years ;)

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On the other hand doing half a job is false economy Simon ;)

Kunifer brake pipe is less than sixty pence per foot, how absolutely spendthrift to use an extra three feet !! :getmecoat:

You must have the only Rover 75 not affected by use or age then Simon :bowdown:

No Simon, it is called skimping on safety critical maintenance, and if your maintenance standards were that high, can I ask why you had to replace any of the fixed pipework on your car?

What you have found as every Rover 75 owner that doesn't have a car that resides at Gaydon, that steel pipework needs replacing from time to time, irrespective of the superiority their own maintenance regime


No one can accuse me of not being curious, yourself included Simon, as I bet even you are not this anal when it comes to checking for wear and tear, after renewing the front brake pipes on the ZT, I cut the corroded section from inside the wheel arch, a section which you advocate dressing up earlier on in this thread, and measured the wall thickness of the tube, and compared it to the other end of the same section of the pipe where it had been removed from the modulator.

The results were that of the original wall thickness of the tube had reduced by wastage to 70% of the original dimension, so less than 3/4,
Now while this may have provided a reasonably effective seal under normal braking conditions, what may have happened in an emergency braking scenario?

The problem being is simply, you cannot use NDT on brake pipes, and the last thing anyone wants is to hear of some unfortunate fellow member rear end another car when the pipework pops.

Now without exception, every single car I've encountered where it has been found necessary to replace the pipework where it is routed along the floorpan, the same pipe in section where it is routed along the rear chassis leg is similarly distressed, regardless of what you have to say on the matter.

So when you disagreed with dropping the tank was necessary when suggested by Andy, a job which in real life takes less than half an hour to complete in order to replace fully this pipework, you are showing yet again your disregard for others who may actually have a better grasp of the job in hand, based upon experience that includes more than your one sample vehicle.

Once again, you can read how to do a job many times in a book, you can theorise as much as you like, but experience is key, especially if you specialise in one type of vehicle.

Brian :D

B/Pipes
 

As the owner of a few Rovers of various types and have at some time replaced all of the Brake pipes, I take the view that to clean up old pipes is somewhat a lazey and foolish way of going about a saftey related items. Do the sensable thing and replace the lot, if not for your saftey but that of other road users.