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Mike Trident 1st November 2021 17:53

Worrying situation
 
Just read this on a Facebook Post.
This is very worrying
https://flic.kr/p/2mFQJGg
If you read the bottom section of the picture it says no modifications from standard, software and hardware . Plus you can only have you say on the government website till the 22nd of November. Dynodaze and many other company's like us up and down the country supplying ,fitting and mapping in modified parts would be out of business over night. Funny how this is our core business and yet we have not been notified of any of this , I'm reading it on social media.
Have your say .
https://www.gov.uk/government/consul...ling-tampering

genpk 1st November 2021 18:16

the manufacturers and govt dont care about classic cars, infact they see them as polluting vehicles, the vehicle manufacturers are pushing hard to be get rid of the small independent mechanical shops through licensing their own IT for their cars so you will only be able to go to them for servicing.
Sort of what the large grocery chains did to the local corner stores.

macafee2 1st November 2021 18:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Trident (Post 2906211)
Just read this on a Facebook Post.
This is very worrying
https://flic.kr/p/2mFQJGg
If you read the bottom section of the picture it says no modifications from standard, software and hardware . Plus you can only have you say on the government website till the 22nd of November. Dynodaze and many other company's like us up and down the country supplying ,fitting and mapping in modified parts would be out of business over night. Funny how this is our core business and yet we have not been notified of any of this , I'm reading it on social media.
Have your say .
https://www.gov.uk/government/consul...ling-tampering

Perhaps I am missing something but it does not cover a remap but does cover an EGR bypass.

Apat from the EGR bypass, what are your concerns?

macafee2

clf 1st November 2021 18:35

will these legislations not be introduced for vehicles made after a certain date? (I couldnt see anything about this).

I was once given an option to remove the cat on an old passat I had. Which I could legally do apparently, as it was first registered before 2004 or something similar - this was around 2008). But if it was a newer car, I had to have it. I believe currently there is similar regarding DPFs and their removal.

Mike Trident 1st November 2021 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by macafee2 (Post 2906216)
Perhaps I am missing something but it does not cover a remap but does cover an EGR bypass.

Apat from the EGR bypass, what are your concerns?

macafee2

No modifications from standard, software or hardware!

Surely software would include a remap?

Mike Trident 1st November 2021 19:22

If everything has to be totally standard, it will be nigh on impossible to keep one of these cars on the road.

macafee2 1st November 2021 20:13

I did not know what NRMM was so looked it up, if you dont know, see below

Non-road mobile machinery (NRMM) is defined as any mobile machine or vehicle that is not solely intended for carrying passengers or goods on the road.

macafee2

bl52krz 1st November 2021 20:41

So does it apply or not to our vehicles. Is it being misinterpreted? Oh sorry. It is evidently on facearse, so it must be true.

Mike Trident 2nd November 2021 00:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by macafee2 (Post 2906235)
I did not know what NRMM was so looked it up, if you dont know, see below

Non-road mobile machinery (NRMM) is defined as any mobile machine or vehicle that is not solely intended for carrying passengers or goods on the road.

macafee2

But it's not just NRMM

"Tackling tampering
We will create new offences for tampering with a system, part or component of a vehicle intended or adapted to be used on a road. This will enable us to address existing gaps in the legislation, ensuring cleaner and safer vehicles. We will also create new offences for tampering with non-road mobile machinery (NRMM) and for advertising ‘tampering’ services or products."


If you read all the magazine article it appears it's worrying the classic car scene. Even the MG owners club technical advisor has expressed his concerns.

coab 2nd November 2021 06:26

I would of thought this applies to the next generation cars not existing ones. EGR bypass and Cat and DPF removal have been illegal for years. Everyone who block a EGR valve etc knows why its fitted to the car.
The modern cars will be like a robot reporting any faults etc to the manufacturer and authorities!:eek:


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