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NOCTURNAL 1st August 2011 20:21

Original Towbar wiring Diagram
 
Can someone furnish me with the Original wiring Diagram for the 13 pin Original electrical wiring Diagram please, I failed installing my copy of Rave on the win7 Lappy and have since misslaid it :(

I've just fitted the 13 pin setup but a it dosent work, and B it cuts out the reversing sensors(WITHOUT) the trailor connected... (its a bike rack actually )

I dont have a meter with me so will have to wait untill after 12 hrs day tomorrow but desperately need to get it working before the weekend ;(

So if someone could help with the right wiring Diagram, or point me to a safe download I'd appreciate it :)

Thanks..

Lovel 1st August 2011 21:12

PM sent .

NOCTURNAL 1st August 2011 21:29

and replied to , thanks m8

I think its the main feed from the underbonnet fusebox and as the instructions I had were for the old internal fusebbox, theres a possability of a cck-up there, but i definately have no supply from the front , can anyone confirm for me that pin 1 on the pink connector to the underside of the engine fusebox is the pin to the left of the male 'tab' when the tab is on top??

Thanks, I assume these plugs/etc are the same from a numbering point of view, if anyone has a similar 3x 1/4" connector plug...


Thanks..

also found a slight design fault in the loom... they double up the orange/slate wires in a joint that sits under/to the side of the pedestrian carpet, right where the water collects if you have a front leak.... Ho hum... another job for after the holls

Lovel 1st August 2011 21:36

on its way

suffolk boy 1st August 2011 21:40

you need the orange slate wire feed from the fuse box which in turn connects to a link lead kit which then connects to the tow bar wiring kit

NOCTURNAL 1st August 2011 22:04

yes m8, i connected the orange/slate from the loom to the supplied plug to engine bay..(need clarification to orientation of this cable and which fuse it is supplied by) then connected the other end to the supplied link-lead black plug...

I have now confirmed tonight with a botched together lamp and testleads lol, that I dont actually have this supply fro the engine bay, so either it is in wrong position on plug, or the fuse is blown(nothing visible)


ive checked my 'taps' into the wiring at rear and they all supply the bmw trailer module ok, but presumeably the lack of 'main supply' means the module isn't passing things on as it should... the relay comes on in the glovebox which is grounded from the lighting module(the other part of the link kit)

I'm very confident either engine fuse, or the position of the orange/slate in the purple connector is the issue :( annoying i didnt have a meter with me at the time , and I had to rush off to vistsi a relative in hospital the sceond I completed the install ...

NOCTURNAL 2nd August 2011 00:04

Thanks for the drawings and info Gary, much appreicated..I probably should ahve said it's a V8 , although i dont think it makes any difference in this case, but your detail showed adding to an assecory fuse point that was already populated in my fusebox.

I had a copy of the layout of my fusebox and it says fuse 22 is the Towing Accessory position? as this was unpopulated, thats where I put my linkwire...

I definately think my issue is the connection to the engine fusebox.
I now have seen looking back over the stuff I had printe out before losing Rave, that F11 engine bay is marked LSM, Trailer ECU,Trailer Fuse, so I need to confirm which pin this is on the reverse side where the pink connector goes into as clearly either I am not in the right connector hole, or I've blown the fuse.....
as I believe the LSM is the Lighting Switch Module, and the lights are working fine , then I can only assume I'm on the wrong connector pin ?

Sufolk, as you seem to have fitted one recently can you remember which terminal yours was in? as I seem to remember you found yours already connected?? if the male 'latch' is at the top and the wires facing you , which position was youre orange and slate wire??

I appreciate you cant go and picture this one lol so just if you could rememebr as I have just read that you had queried this yourself when you found yours ready connected??

thanks for the input all , much appreciated...



I think my link kit is also different to the one you gave me gary, as I had a 5 amp fuse(I have fitted to 22) and two green link wires, one to the LSM pin 9, and the other green and pink I believe to the back of the fuse 22...


Thanks again..

Lovel 2nd August 2011 09:42

V8 version sent, I guess the clue was in your profile, doh.

NOCTURNAL 2nd August 2011 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lovel (Post 775017)
V8 version sent, I guess the clue was in your profile, doh.

tHANKS YET AGAIN, COULD i TROUBLE YOU FOR

YMZ000150 FROM VIN 279884 detail too please...

as I think that was the link lead I had too...


I owe you one ;)

Thanks, Nick

suffolk boy 2nd August 2011 18:45

right her goes form memory the orange wire fits into the pink connector ta the top .to make sure you get the right place this is looking at the fuse box with wide part upwards ie the bottom part of the triangle downwards hope this helps

NOCTURNAL 2nd August 2011 20:05

tHANKS M8, THATS EXACTLY WHAT i NEEDED, LOL

I just have to go and check which way the conector is now...
hopefiully I can find a pic...rather than dismantle everything,, but if anyone has the link lead drawing I metioned above it would be appreciated this is the 150 link lead...




Thnaks again all for your help..

suffolk boy 2nd August 2011 21:09

again from memory fuse 22 sounds right and its defo number 9 on lsm make sure you have the fuse pins in the fuse board located correctly i have in the past shoved these in only to discover they fall out .to fit correctly you need to unclip the red anti back out panel at the front then put in the pins clip cover back in place you no not need as been suggested on here need to remove all the fuses if you no all this sorry for telling you how to suck eggs kind regards phillip:}

Lovel 2nd August 2011 21:16

YMZ000150 Tow link sent. VIN > 279584

NOCTURNAL 2nd August 2011 21:33

Many thanks guys....

I didn't get to look at thelink kit diagram, but Im 100% certain it would have told me the same as S>B did about the wire orientation as it works perfectly :)

this was one of those Jobs that should have been so easy... well it was really, but due to rushing off at the end of the Job I couldn't test it, then ran out of daylight hours and my habit of losing things also conspired against me losing Rave.:(

However.. with the great response of help from Lovel,
and the crucial info from Sufolk Boy that made my venture into the darkness an easy one....


I'm now the proud owner of an Original MGR Totally Hidden Removable Towbar and MGR Cycle Rack with trailer board. :)

Big thanks also to Black Olive Steve whose 'How Too ' made the job a synch , as I had two different Mk1 sets of instructions that dont allow for the issue I had , the link lead connections...

The problem occured as Steve said pin 1, I couldn't see a marker so opted for the left pin...as this is the pin that the original kit used on the link lead that attached to the internal fuse box(for old style internal fb.)

Anyway, enough Rabble Thanks again to you both!!!

suffolk boy 3rd August 2011 08:43

glad you got it sorted i no what is like rushing about in the dark and all that. done it many times learnt best left until morning after a good sleep but i never learn:}

Rob Bell 22nd June 2012 10:23

A bit of a thread revival this, but I am fitting a Witter tow bar with standard 7-pin sockets. I've found the orange slate cable, but it is dead - no power.

Is there a fuse missing, or is it not connected?

2003 ZTT 2.0 CDTi - thanks chaps :)

HarryM1BYT 22nd June 2012 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Bell (Post 1035358)
A bit of a thread revival this, but I am fitting a Witter tow bar with standard 7-pin sockets. I've found the orange slate cable, but it is dead - no power.

Is there a fuse missing, or is it not connected?

2003 ZTT 2.0 CDTi - thanks chaps :)

I'll answer that - it could either or both. You need to check underneath the engine fuse panel where you might find the other end curled up. |The above discussion explains where it should be connected.

Rob Bell 22nd June 2012 12:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryM1BYT (Post 1035385)
I'll answer that - it could either or both. You need to check underneath the engine fuse panel where you might find the other end curled up. |The above discussion explains where it should be connected.

Thanks Harry - found it taped up under the fuse box. Inserted the link into the connector, and job's a good 'un!

Off to collect the car transporter now... fingers crossed, it'll all work now :)


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