Testbook T1,T2,T3,T4
 

I'm seeing more testbooks available on ebay these days, most don't appear to be T4.

What does each version enable you to do? I know T3 would have limited function compared with T4, but how limited? Are the bonus settings worth having T4 rather than T3? Is T2 too outdated?

Also, snybody any idea what cables are required for the other models (not T4) and how much the cables typically are?

T1, T2, T3 will do nearly everything that a T4 will do.

The main differences are the speed at which they operate, they are all capable machines.

Anyone who is thinking about buying one should to do their homework first (essential) and preferably get one with all the appropriate leads as they are no longer available new for T1-T3. (Also if buying a T4 this as also essential as it is very difficult to buy them from Omitec.)

Absolute minimum for our cars for T1-3 are the correct software and leads, DTC0007A, DTC0006A and DTC0065A (red J1962 adapter)


Russ

Thanks Russ, good info there.

the part numbers can be used on T1,2&3? Are they all made by HP as I've seen the old testbooks were?

I posted the following on mg-rover.org but didnt get any responses.

Does anyone know the latest version of RDS Software that can be loaded
to pre-T4 Testbooks?

When you look at the testbooks that are being sold on Ebay some are listed as model 27070a or 27070b or 27070c. Are these basically Testbook 1, 2 and 3 respectively??

As more of these testbooks are becoming available might it not be an idea to start a "sticky" or Testbook sub-forum where we can list testbook info such as versions of software, listing of cables etc., all in one place?

Just a thought? :lol:

John

Have had a look through my Landrover Testbook 1&2 manual and it doesn't mention the model numbers at all.

Testbook1&2 use a 486DX 50mhz processor so can be quite slow in comparison with the later models, not really a problem if time is not an issue.

Information on Testbook 3 is sketchy to say the least, I've only seen reference to it on Landrover based information.

Russ

Testbook T1-T4
 

Just thought I would post some of the software I know about!!

I thought it might be a good idea to keep a list of all available testbook software for MG/Rovers as more and more people are getting access to T1-3 and even T4.


Testbook Discus System Software DRS00303 Contents RDS 3.03 Dos 5.0 Dos 6.2 WIN 3.1 1995

Testbook System Software DRS00311 RDS 3.11 Win 95 1997

Testbook System Maintenance RDSSCAN13 Scandisk 1997

T4 And Testbook Diagnostics DJR0011 11/2002

T4 and Testbook 3 Diagnostics DST0005 12/2004

John :D

Good idea, a list of software and hardware would be pretty handy.

I also couldn't figure out the difference between 27070a or 27070b or 27070c.

pre T4 kit best suited to the earlier cars

They are slow so a decent battery charger is a must have
They are so slow I think some dealers skipped even doing the PDI setup in the early years judging by the amount of cars I see with no country config set

T1 is not a lot of use for the 75 or ZT as it does not support lazy lock and vent or the disks I had for the T1 I rebuilt didn't result it disables certain options you may have had previously

T1, and perhaps 2,3 ideal for DIY only but best not used on other peoples cars

T1 uses RDS 3.11
T4 uses RDS 5 and RDS 5.06 is the version I have

I have never got my hands on a T2 or T3

Thanks Keith.

I read somewhere (and I can't find again where so could be wrong) that T3 was replace with T4 late 2003. So I guess T3 would do most things, or at least for the earlier models?

Anybody know if any reference material has been published? Such as pdf tutorials on using the software, hardware guidelines, or anything else along those lines? Would be good to have it all here.

Information on Testbook/T4 is difficult to find as they were intended to be dealer and specialist tools only.

There are sites that do have .pdf's of some of the manuals and user guides but because of copyright links to them or copies would not be able to be published on the forum.

There are other pieces of information that can be gleaned from the net, you have to do an awful lot of digging though various sites and threads though.

Russ

T4 info like info on the tracker type thing i have recently found in my car is virtually non existent on the Net
there is probaly more info on T4 here from me than anywhere else you will find

I took over a year to track down an installer for RDS3.11 in order to install a replacement hard disk in the T1 I fixed. Not only did the stupid thing use custom hardware but it also had copy protection software on the HDD as well.

T2 went to plug in ISA cards instead of the T1 custom PCB both made by HP, T3 probably can do all a T4 can as far as the ordinary FWD 75 and ZT is concerned however I bet only a T4 can do the V8

pics

T1

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...k/DSCN0199.jpg

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...k/DSCN0196.jpg

T2

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...stbook/T2a.jpg

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...stbook/T2b.jpg

Ironically I now work for HP!

TB1 system software
 

Hi dear
I need install for
Testbook
Discus System Software DRS00303 Contents RDS 3.03 Dos 5.0 Dos 6.2 WIN 3.1 1995

where can i find that program for my testbook? and who is the manufacturer? I cant find on the net any.. please help me..

Best Regards.

Hakan

Closest version to that one I have is DRS00404

@luccastyle: I do have the original RDS 3.03, PN me

@Keith: The T3 is capable doing the V8

@The_Monk: RDS 4.04 wont work on the old machines

Reinstalling windows on T1
 

When I boot up the machine I get the message:

error loading keyboard.drv. You must reinstall windows.

I have the Testbook System Software DRS00311 with W95 and RDS3.1.

I have tried rebooting using safe mode but no luck but can get to a C: prompt.

Anyone have any suggestions on how to reinstall W95?

Thanks very much!
John

You need a copy of Windows 95. Ironically it was only a few months ago that I threw mine away while haveing a clean-out. You can try and download a copy for the Internet and do a repair, or reinstall (but you will need a proper licence / serial number).

The system software says it has W95 on it but I can't get from the C Prompt to D: drive (which is the designated drive- I assume).

Don't know if a W95 cd will autoload though.

John

I think I have a win 98 start-up disk which may help. I could email the files to you to try out.

Thanks Bill, I don't know if W98 startup disk will work as I can't get the drive letter in DOS to change to the CD Rom drive letter.

Anyone know if a external floppy drive will work with T1?

John

The T1 has the 34pin internal floppy connector, that works for the W98 start disk

TestBook
 

If it may concern, I own the original CD T4 and TestBook 3 "Diagnostics DSTI005" 01/2005, end is in Italian, and i can make available.
hello
Attachment 8152

useful things to be able to access;) i'm sure some one near you will be calling on you soon :}

This ere T4 you're talking about. Is it a diagnostic 'puter of the systems on our cars as well as turning on and off various functions? What else does it do?

John, it seem like you are still having difficulty with your TestBook.
If you like I'll post you a working HDD from a TestBook 1, I'm about to scrap, if you open up your machine, and check if you have a 2.5" or 3.5" hdd & let me know.
Price of a couple of pints to cover postage should suffice :}
Brian.

Just a reminder to think before posting people.
Omitec Testbook CDs are copyright so are not something to copy and distribute freely

We don't want another situation like the one that developed a year or so ago where a less than honest forum user started approaching many of us for CDs Only for us to discover he was making some over hyped claims about his abilities and selling anything he could con out of people on Ebay.

And on the subject of the CD content
For the Newbies just be aware they are absolutely useless on their own without the appropriate Omitec hardware interface and leads and I do mean useless!

Betcha no one has a TestBookCase 1 like mine then?:Dhttp://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...PICT0046-1.jpg
Fairly cumbersome for test drives mind :confused:
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...PICT0048-1.jpg
And yes it is a touchscreen open frame 20" CRT monitor I was thinking a nice teak cabinet for it, with matching drinks locker, what do you think for the back of the Tourer? :cool:
Brian.

Amazing- A Hotpoint appliance driven T4, never thought I would see that :getmecoat:

Must be hard on your back on mobile jobs ?


Amazing- A Hotpoint appliance driven T4, never thought I would see that :getmecoat:

£470 without cables or VSCI interface block
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=290550227163

Useless on its own!

Or for silly money £2580
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=230482754832

Hi Brian

That would be great!! I will check on Thursday and PM you.

John

t1 software
 

Hello in New to the forum i have a complete testbook T1 (all leads discs etc)
unfortunatelly the HDD is not working any more
wondering if any of you guys could help me with geting software to bring it back to life or maybe even supply me with an image of working Hdd
all help welcome :shrug:


Thank you in advance Adam :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

I'm assuming something along these lines :drool4:
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...s/DSC00367.jpg
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...s/DSC00366.jpg
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...s/DSC00365.jpg
Brian ;)

i need some help to get an old testbook (the one with the detatchable touch screen on a long lead) up and running again. does any one know how to get RDS3.11 to install? the instructions ask for RDS3.12 but we have never had that disc. win95 installed ok but i need to find D:\Rds_w.exe on a disc to start intallation. any help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks again
Rupert Prior

Hi Rupert, from the description of your machine, you have a TestBook 2, you need to set your CD drive letter extension to drive Z:, and a copy of RDS 4.04, forget the earlier revisions, as you will have no end of grief, attempting a fresh install of RDS onto windows 95.
Here is an extract from the installation folder of RDS 4.04

1.0 Installation Options
------------------------
The RDS_W.EXE Installation program requires a command line parameter that
specifies the type of computer that is to be installed. If this parameter
is omitted the default is for TestBook 3 system. Confirmation of the installation
type is displayed before the procedure begins.

In order to install rds select Run from the Windows Start menu. In the box provided
the install program name a space and then the command line option (A list of valid
options is given below)

Z:\RDS_W <Command Line Option>


The Command line Options are:-

Command Computer Type
Line

1 TestBook 1
2 TestBook 2
3 TestBook 3
4 T4

Example
-------
In order to install for a T4 system the line should read:

Z:\RDS_W 4

If you need any more info, feel free to give me a PM
Cheers
Brian ;)

Hi,



Found this website with some manuals that might help someone. Don't know if it has been posted before.


http://en.rover-club.net/manuals.php

thanks for the replies, so basically i need to set it up as T4 (is there a cut off point where they won't run properly). i will check with Rover Australia to see if they can supply any discs, but i won't hold my breath.
thanks again
Rupert

It needs to be set up to the particular Testbook model that you have unless it's one that has been upgraded at some point by Omitec. ;)

Russ

Sounds likely going from Rupert's description of his machine, that he has a TestBook 2.
So given that, an install of RDS 4.04, will suffice, and or course give the same functionality as TestBook 1, albeit somewhat faster.
It is only TestBook 3 that will run the most modern MGR diagnostics, DST0006V etc, TestBook 1 & 2 are limited to DRM00020U for MG, and DJR00012T for Rover as the LANGMAP files are different for TestBook 1 & 2.
However, ironically the very last of Land Rover Archive discs will run successfully on T1 & T2, as not all dealerships wanted to upgrade to T4.
Hope this clears up the confusion surrounding what will and won't run on the earlier machines.
Brian :D

t4 on a normal laptop possible? what parts needed?
 

Hi everyone,http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...ons/icon10.gif
I'm about to purchase some cables and a lot of cd's for testbook.
But i'd like to know if it's possible to use t4 on a normal laptop.
If yes, can anybody tell me what i need more to connect and use it?
Regards, Jarno.

http://fotos.marktplaats.com/kopen/b...x7d20ByA==.jpghttp://fotos.marktplaats.com/kopen/d...UCQdVMGw==.jpghttp://fotos.marktplaats.com/kopen/5...w4jdzy2g==.jpg

Hi those are testbook 1 leads, useless without the machine itself, however most of the leads do work with T4.
As T4 is an ethernet based interface, in addition to your laptop you will need DTC4002B main interface http://www.spxtools-shop.com/jlr/pro...799_19800.html, DTC4007B VCSI extension lead http://www.spxtools-shop.com/jlr/pro...799_19800.html, and RDS 5.06 to run on your laptop.
Not cheap is it :icon_sad:
Brian :D

Oooo I have that CD case! :D

Hello marinabrian and all reader,

With interest I read the letters in the Technical Help Forum,
with regard to Testbook T1, T2, T3, T4 on page 4,
letter #31 to 39, from 18th July to 19th December 2011.
I have a T2 with software-fault or a file-error at the hard disk drive.
This is likely a window-problem.
Therefore I can't RDS update or install,
then it is useless, in case the operating system have a fault.
It shall me be left, or beter:" I have no other choice" as a new-install the OS, after that the RDS-installation.

My question is:"What must I do, for a new-intallation on a different HDD"?

Thanks on Everyone for help and work on my problem.

Best regards

Cornelius

Is it Windows 95 OS?

To repair OS on the old HDD:

You can install new windows on top of the old ones just by deleting the win.com (in windows folder) and make a regular Win 95 install on the same HDD pointing the setup to install to WINDOWS folder not to WINDOWS001 the software suggests.
This will cure the operation system problem.
BUT... if the HDD had developed bad blocks other parts of the software will be unusable and probably need to reinstall more software.
That is exactly my case! (testbook T1) but I found out that I do not have the RDS 3.11 to install and it is VERY HARD to find...

To install on a different HDD you have to make a partition exactly the same size as the old one and install everything from scratch.
As far as I know you cannot just make an image of the old disk to the new one as there are issues with security checking software that checks for a particular HDD id.


I hope I helped

Petros

Hello Petros,

sorry for my not correct british.
Thanks for feedback and thanks for the tip with cure-window-install.
It is a way for window on a PC.
But in this case it is the window, what contain in the CD-RDS3.11.
Certainly do the RDS problems, because then is window ok,
but the access be disconnect/interrupted.
Possible it give problems due alteration the files or size.
As far as I can tell, my HDD is now complete be at an end.
I will try out the RDS4.04 of win95 or 98.
Off my laptop is ist not a problem, but not the correct hardware.
Now i search for the way to find " Command Line Options" for install on T2.
The Line should read: Z:\RDS_W <2>
My RDS4.04 have a Setup-install-routine and i cannot find the Line:

Z:\RDS_W<Command Line Option>, at least not at install on my laptop.

Ok, on the CD is the "readme.txt" for the information,
but nowhere it describe on the Page #33 in this Testbook-Thema.
Whit the different HDD, I have attemt a clone, but it be unsuccessful.
Both HDDs do not works on T2 or a different PC.
Only now works a Bootdisk 95/98 for a installation.
Therefore I will install 95/98 and 4.04

I would like to ask the members advice for the question:
" How can I get to the Command Line Option "

Best Greetings

Cornelius

This as you have a TestBook 1 I can easily help with ;)
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...1/DSC00079.jpg
Hello Conni, sorry I have not got back to you sooner, I have been having a lot of problems with my E-Mail account :(
First install windows 95 on your TB2 HDD
Now set cd drive extension letter to Z:
Once this has been done, insert RDS 4.04, CTRL+ALT+DEL, click on file, new task (run).
In the prompt box type Z:\RDS_W2, you should now have a prompt "install RDS4.04 for Testbook 2", follow the onscreen prompts and this should work.
Best wishes
Brian :D

Hi Brian,

Unfortunatelly I do not have any old RDS. I only have newer software for the T4 RDS & IDS that can't install on T1.:shrug:
Any chance of exchanging new for old?
Regards
Petros

Hi cornelius,
I had to work around those difficulties as I do not have the RDS cd.
I disconnected the on-board battery and left it to discharge for a day to enter the bios and make changes i.e. enable the Floppy drive (there was a password protection)
Then I connected a Floppy drive from an old pc.
I started up using windows98 startup floppy
I chose "start with CD ROM support" so I could use the win 95 CD
I installed the windows "on top" of the old Windows 95
Testbook started nomally, I could use the touch screen but I had (I still have) problems with the RDS part of the software.
I am still looking for RDS 311 or 404 as Brian suggested.

Do you have the RDS CD? If so any chance for a copy?

Regards
Petros

@Cornelius: please empty your mailbox (is probably full)

Sorry I cannot contact with you until you fix your mailboxe :shrug:

petrover

Hello Brian,

Fine,thank you for this information, in the fourth line from your letter, that's all that matters. ;-)
Thank you very much, of course also for all different lines.
Considering the fact that your words make me happy. :-)
I will write in case that T2 doesn't work. :-(

Thanks for the best wishes and back to you.

Greetings

Cornelius

Hello Petros,

there are a lot of members who can help.
Be that as it may, I too,
but Brian is one from the few members with most experience.
Keep calm, i have no other choice, I stay of be left reserve.
That's it.

Greetings

Cornelius

Sorry Cornelius I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean :shrug:

English is not my mother tongue

Thank you anyway

Petros

RDS Software 3.11. or 4.04
 

Does anyone know where I can get a copy of RDS 311 or 404 I have a T2 which the HDD failed I have managed to source a replacement one and fitted it but the only disc I have is DRS0311_2 which seems to be a upgrade disc for the millennium if I am wrong and it is a full version does anyone have the instruction on how to install it thank you john

PM sent ;)
Brian :D

Evening I have just bought a testbook t1 with a broken cd drive I have a new one on the way :)
I'd like to eventually upgrade a little if possible ie memory and rds 4 but don't know where to start
Has anyone got a bios password also the rds3 seems to have a password as well any ideas help would be greatly appreciated
Also after buying any spare mg rover disks

16MB max memory, 486DX processor fastest, cd rom must be SCSI not IDE and set to drive :Z

BIOS password is HPCE ;)

The RDS configuration password can be retrieved, but in order to do that, I need to see the machine :D

If you want any help setting up let me know.

Brian :D

Could a 486 dx100 be fitted think the ram is maxed out lol
Your a star cd is scsi just ordered a new one il have a play tomorrow and post some pics
Can the t1 run the disks for bcu programming on the mk2zs ?

Or a INTEL PENTIUM i486DX2 A80486DX2-66 PROCESSOR

Here you go, but be quick........


Brian :D

I don't think it can but Brian will be able to tell you as he has T1's.

I was bidding on that too and at 260 you got it for a good price!

Have fun :)

Saw that gonna wait til I get a working cd drive first
Presumably I could put an IDE drive after hdd and setup in bios ?
Can you actually get into windows to change letter ? Eventually il put a ssd in as well with epc on if I can get it to dual boot

I'm quite chuffed at 260 I hope it works
Just need some more discs if anyone wants to sell some

As in see the machine in person ?

Yep ;)

Brian :D

Cracked it lol ;)



Well it had no password :)

Having trouble getting the new cd rom working what Id should it have ?
Does a different cd drive need different drivers ?
In integrity test it says pass but home screen sais no cd ? I'm a bit confused

It needs to be set as drive :Z other wise RDS doesn't recognise it ;)

Get your keyboard out and change it, that's the problem :D

Brian :cool:

How do I do that lol

Looked through dos can't find any drive but c rods configuration definitely seeing drive ?

Stupid windows sorted it ;)

Aren't you the lucky one then ;)

It took me six weeks to figure that out on my TestBook 1 :panic:

Brian :D

Figured out how to get into control panel and ****** about with it lol

What's the latest MG disc you have for TestBook then, DRM0020U :shrug:

I think you may struggle with Pektron stuff.............


Brian :xmas-smiley-035:

Drm016-b is the latest I have

It's always worth a try lol need to get 2000 freelander disk

Thanks very much for the help its much appreciated :)

Typical hasn't got the yellow 5as lead need to make or buy one

Bought a 66mhz processor should make it faster :)
Has anyone got the wiring diagrammes for the yellow and green lead found a pg thread adapter to m20 :)
or any leads available to buy ?
I've read about disabling the testbooks lead check routine which would make life easier if someone can point me in the right direction

66mhz processor fitted what a difference !!

Does anyone know what discs would be required for use with a t4 for range rovers?
And is there anybody who has got one for sale?
Thanks

I fitted a flash hard disk drive, speeds up very well! :D

Hi
I'm managed to buy a testbook (a T1 i think) can someone tell me where i can get the latest version of RDS as i have the 3.11 or is it the last one working with it ?
Thx a lot

No sorry :getmecoat:
Brian ;)

Dear community, please tell us what a set of LRT5015A is for TDC0041A
How and where (to) connect it?

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