16weeks, Yes thats weeks, and......It's Now Fixed.......... :D
 

Hi,

As some of you know I broke down in Southampton on the day of the national meet. Well since then my poor old car has been to :
1. My local garage (ex-Rover staff)
2. X-part Service centre, Llandyssul, and now..
3. It's on its Way to Shorts' in Swansea (Specialist Auto electrical)

Not bad mileage without clocking it up!! :o

(Full story at http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...ad.php?t=20217 )

Something really wierd has happened to her, nobody has got an idea locally. So I've yet another week (at least) without my car).

If they keep changing Parts the Way they are they would have rebuilt it!!

Do hope its sorted soon and you are back on the Road again.

Hi ANDREW I feel so sorry for you One would have thought that the problem would have been sorted long ago hope that this does not put you off your 75

Had I read this earlier I would have saved you 5 pages of waffle. (imo of course :))

If nothing is showing up on T4 and there are no warning lights you are left with only two options.

High Pressure fuel regulator seal has shot through or your ECU capacitors have died in turn not firing the injectors because they are not holding a strong enough charge.

I have had EXACTLY the same problem as this but it was never documented here, it was on the 'other side'.

HP regulator will not show up on T4, only a BOSCH specialist can tell you if its pressure is low (as can only a BOSCH specialist diagnose the caps on the ECU).

If I'd seen this, I would have got your car from Beaulieu and taken it to a diesel specialist in Poole. That is what you need to do. It has to go to a BOSCH service specialist for their flow equipment.

Glow Plugs will never stop the car from starting (by car, I mean our cars or any modern derv), in fact, Renault no longer have them.

Cam and crank sensors could have been ruled out in seconds if anyone had tried some easystart.

If you spray easystart up the EGR intake and the car runs, it is more than likely the HP regulator seal is shot and/or you're suffering from injector leakback. If it was cam / crank, the car would stop again immediately (same with ECU caps). Only in severe cases of HP regulator failure would the easystart not work, however, its possible that this could be the cause of you coming to a sudden stop.

Hope you get it fixed and that you now have a few more ideas to throw in to the mix.

My next move would be undoubtedly to get the car to a Bosch service centre. My local 'X-****' dealer didn't even know how to use T4. Well, they did, but only one person did. Remember, training on this equipment is long gone and is reserved for the experienced which soon turns into chinese whispers. I had to tell them what menu to access to check for pressure. :shrug:

Good Luck

My sentiments entirely.... a specialist every time rather than main agents.
Good luck getting your car back

I wouldn't have thought capacitor failure would cause sudden engine shut down, more likely wouldn't start the next day after everything cooled down.

What miles has she done?

I'm guessing the reference to 'heroin for cars' was to Easystart.

Ahh yes, see that now. Which is even more amusing as the AA told me exactly the same thing after plugging their laptop in.

(did the bulb test on injector 1).

Was still the regulator seal.

This will be the third diesel documented that I have seen with this problem although I know more exist. Poor show Bosch.

Thanks for that and earlier post. I shall pass it onto the garage tomorrow, even though the car is no longer there and is now in Swansea. But the info is very relevant in the search for the cause of this "breakdown".


Thanks folks, very much appreciated :lol:

Thanks again folks. I've sent the relevant info to the two garages now dealing with the problem. with a bit of luck I'll get her back sometime this year :)

Guess any further up-grading will have to wait until after I pay this bill!! :mad:

Hi Folks!!

Guess what? Yup that's right, no car!!:(

BUT the "experts" in Swansea have found the fault(s). They've even managed to get the car running, albeit roughly.

The culprits seem to be the injectors - YES all 4!! Oh yeah, and maybe the fuel pump under the bonnet.

As a true blue Cardi....... this is going to hurt:(:(:(

I find it highly unlikely that all 4 injectors are dead or dying. Even if 4 were playing up the car would still run with easy start unless the leakback was massive on all 4.

My injectors are at 120k and show absolutely no signs of dying, yet, by comparison, I've had every other fueling issue under the sun.

A bosch specialist will refurb your injectors for around £85 to £100 each.

Car does run on EasyStart (alone), but the word I was looking for was "leakback", That's what the Mechanic told me this morning, and yes, apparently, on all 4:(.

I am not in a position to argue with their expertise, but they said that they get 3 or 4 a year with this same problem. I guess they only get to see the ones that other garages cannot fix. As for Bosch specialists, I am not aware of any in my locale:( But will have a look to see if there are any. But more than likely to be 90+ miles away.

At the moment, I don't care how much it costs to repair, I just want her back!! 4 weeks is a long time to be without a mistress :D

Make sure you get your faulty Injectors etc Back.
Repaired you may be able to recoup some of your losses.
No Mistress for 4 Weeks, My god thats a lifetime. :D

Roger Wilco;)

For all 4 injecters to fail at the same time sounds like a mis-fuel problem.....

you haven't put unleaded in by mistake have you .....?

No..... but did pick up some "cheapish" diesel somewhere near Romsey the day before..... about 5p/ltr cheaper than the average garage. Cannot remember the brand.. and did not bother to keep the receipt :o Drove some 60 odd miles before the engine "died" :shrug:

Do you remember how much fuel you had in the tank and how much you added ?

From my recent experience of mis-fueling, talking to the AA man that did mine, more then 5-10% contamination, is enough to do damage.

Sounds like this saga may be coming to a conclusion. Hope it's all sorted soon Andrew. Really feel for you here.

About a third of a tank :(

Thanks GG. Hope it is. Must ring the garage on Monday and tell them to check the fuel:)

................and how much did you add.....?

Too much, if you want in ltr/gal. No idea

There is a chance that the filling station may have had a delivery and the driver put unleaed into the diesel storage tank. It's not unknown for this to happen.

It may even be worth contacting the garage.

I'll get the garage to analyse the tank's contents. But I filled up from three garages during the previous two days ( got into a habit of filling every time I do a 100 miles or so.

How long would incorrect or dirty fuel take to foul the injectors?

Andrew

there is no definative answer to your question. There are so many factors.

Have a read of thisMisfueling and you can see that depending on vehicle, age, milage, and so on depends on the final outcome.

The key is, that diesel is a lubricant and as such is essential to lubricate all the pumps and injectors. Petrol is a solvent and strips any lubrication off the surfaces it comes into contact with.

There is no definitive answer:):shrug:

As you say the variables are infinite (almost). Even if I find that the trouble lies with the fuel, which garage ? Googled all the local newspapers where I filled up from, and found no reference to a mis-filled tank in any regional newspapers. So were any of these the cause?

Or was it a local garage that had had a mishap? (And YES that does make sense!:D) How many miles before the problem arose?

It would be difficult to lay blame at the door of any fuel retailer, as the possible source of the problem could be so many. Also, after nearly 100K miles, were the injectors, et al, on the way out?

So many questions..... but where is the answer?............:pillow:

If the garage had found one or even two injectors being at fault, then normal wear and tear would seem likely, but all 4............


Anyway, I hope that you get the car back soon, and you get many more trouble free miles.....

So do I..... ;) I have spent a lot on her, and I truly love the car, when working properly !! :D Ce la vie. But life goes on, and so I hope will the car. I hope for a 10year life, at least, and she's a six year old already. But with careful driving and TLC, she'll give me a lot of pleasure and, as usual, the "Smug feeling" when people do a "second take" of the car that is cruising past them :D:D

Any news Andrew ?

Rang them today, they're still working on her. Injectors have been replaced. They need to check the fuel, and the pump(s). Seems one of the pumps is not running properly. May have some more news on Wednesday. One month to the day bar one...... Gawd I miss her :(

er...sometime ago sitting in a Pub in Southampton,
that was one of the two original thoughts Pump and Cam Sensor.
Once they have changed everything of course it should all be running fine.:(

At this rate everything will be changed except the block!!:(

It was meant as a sarcastic remark Andrew,
they do seem to be running a bit hit and miss to get it sorted,
rather than positive diagnosis of fault.

Well, it's at the third garage, at least the guy I spoke to today seems to know what he's doing. The main problem was (as he put it) "What's caused the injectors to stop working" Cure is easy, finding the cause seems to be the problem. .....

Yes did get the sarcasm :lol: Hence the reply :D

36 days later.....
 

Well another week has gone, and she's still not home:( Spoke to the garage on Thursday and was told that a Technician was working on her. Work got too hectic today so did not get the chance to call them.

So the Mechanic has finished her, now a Technician. Who next? ;)

Andrew, sorry to hear it's not good news.

Have you asked them to check the fuel...?

Yes I did, faxed them with a whole list of things to check;) They were due to check the fuel today....

Maybe if I stopped "hassling" them I'll get her back sooner. Better be soon, as I've got the silly season about to start and I'll need her carrying capacity.:D

Is it in the safe hands of a Diesel specialist this time?

5 weeks, and counting.........
 

I hope so!! I've heard good reports about Shorts of Swansea. They are auto diesel and electrical specialists. They seem to know what they are doing, at least they have progressed more than the other 2 garages.

Latest is that they have taken the ECU apart and found a blown capacitor. They are waiting for a new board to arrive to be inserted into the ECU.

Watch this space...........:(

What ever happened to getting a soldering iron out and actually repairing it instead of changing Boards? :(

Probably a SMT capacitor:( Besides it's easier to change a board than to use a soldering iron.

Who does repairs anymore? All these old time skills are disappearing, especially in the car mechanics/electrics field. If you can't replace an item it ain't fixable :D

WHO CHANGED THE HEADING OF THIS THREAD?

Whatever.. Thank you :D

Odd, you can check the caps during cranking on a bosch diagnostic machine.

This happened to me but would never stop the car once driving, only from starting. Bascially the caps charge and fire a pulse to the injectors. The caps then do nothing until the next time the car is started. This would certainly explain why they thought all 4 injectors were shot.

ECU doctor couldnt repair it but its worth a go with yours. If they cant repair it, you dont pay.

New ECU and session on T4 for me was £650,

As I said earlier, it was always going to be either the ECU or the High Pressure regulator seal. I bet they havent checked that yet.

They told me today that the pressures are now OK,:) They seemed fairly confident that all that was left to do was repair the ECU....... I'm not holding my breath.........:( Except for the bill, I'm looking forward to getting into her again :D

I changed the Name of Thread to keep up with the length of your Current Dilemma.
Er...I can put it back to 3 weeks if it sounds less Painful. :D

New board? I don't buy that at all be careful get an idea of how much this "board" is going to cost before they fit it please, better still get the part number so we know what they mean.

There are capacitors used to fire the injectors but a simple T4 session would have highlighted if the voltage they produce was at fault bottom two in this picture from my T4 on my CDT saloon

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...DEDiagsT1a.jpg

I was told it would be substantially cheaper than an ECU. How much, got no idea. As I said three weeks ago, I'm beginning not to care as to cost. I just want her back, up and running. It sounds like they are almost there, and I should be getting the car back soon. I must admit that getting definitive information out of any of the garages she's been to is very difficult.

Getting hold of the people working on her to try and get the info, is difficult as I only have a linch hour the same as they do. And making phone calls from work is most frowned upon, even if I could find the time.

So I'm just hoping that the ordeal will soon be over,,,,,,,,,,:(

Don't know about this one, but that's not how they work on the TD5 land rover engine:-

Because the injectors aren't like on a petrol engine they need to work hard. 12v is not enough to make them operate hard enough and fast enough. So there's an inverter power supply to give more volts. This charges the capacitors up, which are used to fire the injectors, all the time. If these capacitors fail, then there's not enough juice to power the injectors.

Those capacitors are fairly big and you can see the bulge in that ECU.

I believe the Bosch system to be the same, but don't know, and the T4 readings of 70 ish volts seem to back it up. There could be lot's of other possible reasons for failing only at startup, one of which could be the change in supply voltage from 12v to 14v when running.

no you're right, but I must clarify what I meant. They are stable at around 70v permanently but need to be far higher than this during cranking. They then settle to around 70v for their cycle.

For instance, my caps would quiet happily sit at 70v when tested but during cranking where getting nowhere near the required voltage.

Oh well, not getting her back this week :(:(

However they do have another 75 CDT there with the same problem ( I know no more than this).

I've faxed them everything you good guys have sent or posted, so all I can do know is sit and wait,... and wait... and......:(:shrug::(

Agreed but IIRC Dagrad said the engine died "On the move" so I doubt failing would capacitors would cause his "original" symptoms.

true, in which case we're back to fuel starvation or injectors.

Cam and crank senors wouldnt stop the car running dead it would put it into limp home mode, light the MIL and show on T4.

The fact they thought all 4 injectors were shot leads me to strongly suggest the ECU is at fault.

In order to resolve this quickly, I'd be getting a new one and plugging it in and T4'ing it.

Only 'real' way to be sure.

And, without depressing you further, your final bill is probably close if not more to the value of your car. :(

I'm already depressed, but what you say is probably true. :(:(

Next week they're looking at the ECU,......... Not holding my breath any more, not driving much either, lost the will..........;)

Cheer up matey, I am sure it will be back soon, just think how much money you have saved not filling it up :)

I'd rather have been filling her up than face the bill I'm going to get ! :(:(

But thanks for the sentiment... ;)

Surely they shouldn't be billing you for randomly changing bits that are not the cause of problem?

TBH I don't really know what the bill will include. From some people that I've spoken to who have had dealings with Shorts of Swansea, they are very genuine. Supposed to be very good, but who knows? They are the third "expert" garage the car has been to.....:(

They have checked the pressures of the fuel pumps, and they are OK, whether that means they've installed new ones or not, I do not know. The work they do may be very good but I must admit that their communications leave a lot to be desired.........

Really feel for you.
I do hope you get it back very soon now.

...otherwise will have to alter title again. :D

Needs to be altered on Sunday at 08.30am :D;)

Now 6 weeks and no Joy.
So much for the Car Service Industry they should be shot!

Well they could not fix the old ECU so luckily I 'phoned them before they ordered a new one as I had resourced one. Actually not strictly true, Zeb, on seeing my plight, offered me his brand new one, so that is now winging its way towards Swansea.

Thank Zeb, credit where credit's due :bowdown::D Thanks mate, a few beers at the next National meeting ...... If I get the car back by then :D:D:D

You are very welcome Dragrad...I only hope it sorts your car out! We should know by tea time tomorrow! (I assume they have a T4 to code it to your car?)

One would assume so........:)

Nothing would surprise me with the way this lot has been going,
they will most probably ask what a T4 is. :)

I'm going to stick my neck on the line here and say that the ECU, when installed and coded correctly will cure the problem.

I certainly hope so for Andrew sake

It's not just the fault of "this lot", don't forget this is the THIRD garage, and these guys are meant to be the experts.


The first one was manned by ex-Rover dealership staff. The second was an X-part Service Centre, and these guys are Auto diesel and electric experts.

Fingers are now crossed that the light at the end of the tunnel is an on-coming Bill :D

As an aside, this current garage has got another CDT in there with the same problem:(

Thats good news
They should be able to build one good one out of the Two! :D

I do hope they don't fit the new ECU to the wrong car...:eek:

Did you write the reg no?

Oh yes...most definitely in there on a nice big A4 sheet of paper in red pen.....so they are bound to miss it..:o:getmecoat:*











* I am sure all will be well ;)

There can't be much else to do now, except to program it,.......... I'm not holding my breath.................

Don't worry Zeb if they don't have a T4 they can't do it any harm

It's not Zeb who's worried - it's me:D

A pity you aren't closer I would have liked to have had a crack at it
Shout if these people that have it now don't have a T4, I might be able to help out somehow.

Trouble is Keith its not Mobile and doesn't start and hasn't since it stopped at the Beaulieu meet.

Thanks for the offer Keith, if, no, WHEN, I get her back, hopefully running, I might need a T4 to program all the niceties back in. So a trip to Ellesmere could be on the cards. :)

Be careful what you offer :D:D

when are you expecting the next instalment Andrew ?

I had this worry (about the new ECU not having all the features working again). But its the BCU that controls all this so you'll have no problems. I had a list as long as my arm of all the things that the car had (and some it didnt) and it came back exactly as it went to them meaning the ECU actually has no 'options' available to it.

All they did was plug it in, give it the code, serial number and mileage and off it went.

Well, the ECU should arrive on the 17th, give them a day and a half..... + (?)

Your guess is as good as mine :D

At least I have not lost my sense of humour, getting close mind....:D:D:D:D

That's good to know, I've had enough trouble getting my head around an ECU, what does a BCU do?

Whatever happened to Rover 75 (Original):D:D

The BCU (Body Control Unit) sits behind the glove box and is a unit for controlling everthing that happens body wise, so, windwos, ATC, all that kind of stuff.

OMG Dragrad, I have just read through all the suggestions and help you have been given.

I do hope you hear some good news at the end of all your problems

I am just dying to know if the new ECU has sorted this protracted problem....:o

Most but not all. ATC is controlled by the ATC unit, for example. Seats when they have memories have their own control unit.

ECU is a confusing term, sometimes referring to Engine control module, other times any Electronic control module. BCU's are also known as BCMs, or sometimes BeCMs (M being module instead of unit).

Come on tell me i wanna wanna know its killing me :getmecoat:

Far more interesting that anything on TV at the moment. Suspense is killing us all.........

Hopefully Dragrad is out cruising................

Sorry guys, no news as yet :shrug:

Will call the garage tomorrow, although that might be too early, but at least I can confirm whether the ECU (or whatever :)) has arrived,.... or not......;)

If you lot are in suspense, how do you think I am feeling? (rhetorical) :D:D

But thanks for the sentiments.......

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

I emailed you the tracking number...when I checked it had been sent out from the local office for delivery....that was at 10.30am.....:)

Aha! So that's what that was ! I thought it was an e-bay item, Spent an hour trying to tie it in with a purchase. Doh!!:o:o

Stick it in www.postoffice.co.uk track & trace...

Had to laugh at that, then I realised your are being serious :D

Sorry zeb, brain must have gone for a walk yesterday:o

You have a lot on your mind mate;)

And it has been delivered..... Maybe I'll call them on Thursday, the more I hassle them the longer it'll take ;)

Regarding the mis fuel post, I seem to remember reading about a supermarket in the sout or south west of England that was paying compensation because of a fuel mix-up at the pumps. They weren't advertising the fact!!! This was about 5 weeka ago.

Google supermarket + misfuel and see if you get anything from the ares you filled up.

Hope you get sorted soon

Geoff

Been there, no T-shirt:) I checked the local stories / papers sometime ago, but there was no mention of any garages with fuel problems. Due to the low price it was a busy garage, so if there had been a problem it would have manifested itself somewhere. :confused:

Any news please?

Okay folks, the latest.......

This afternoon they were going to put the new (Zeb's) ECU in. That's all I know. But in the words of the bloke I spoke to "Once that's in and programmed, that should do it".

Watch this space.....:lol:

Fingers crossed then, out playing at the weekend ;)

Forgot to add, the garage said they now had three R75's with the same problem as mine, and that a further two were on their way down from London:(:(

Looks like a lucrative business......:D

So??????????

Is the Damson Dragon back on the road?

I could have taken it all apart and rebuilt it bit by bit by now Andrew.
7 Weeks nearly.
What they playing at now?

Well JDC - Get ready to turn the title to 7 weeks.....

This morning they got the T4 connected to the ECU and started to programme it.

BUT......

They found a fault with the Airbag control thingummyjig (or sensors) so have had to suspend operations until they cure that fault....... There was no apparent problem before???????:shrug:

Then they can go back to programming...............................

Anybody know a good shrink?!? I think I'm going to need one. :D:D:D:D:D:D Come to think of it anybody know a good garage? :D:D

As for your comment JDC, funny coincidence, I said something similar to the garage today - Great minds etc.....

So week 7 loometh.........

I think get it towed to Lates and between that Team and a Few Electrical Knowledgeable members it should be on the Road In a Day.

The Airbag is most probably the Normal connection under the seats.

Well we couldn't do any worse could we?

Just feel so sorry for you Andrew.

Surely they can sort out without that Module anyway has nothing to do with starting the Flippin Car!!

Airbag thingamy is a seperate unit! ( only know because I bought a replacement drivers airbag from ebay and it came with the control unit.) I presume we are talking about the control unit that activates the bags?
Sat in my shed if you want it, FOC. could post it tommorrow :)
Let me know

Cheers mate, I'll let you know on Monday. They won't have looked at it before then, so I'll let them know that one is available :)

You guys are stars :bowdown::D:D

No problem Andrew, Just dug it out, couple of photos of it for connections and part number.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/f...e/DSCF0064.jpg

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/f...e/DSCF0065.jpg

Andrew, is this a Diesel specialist your car is at now?
Sraws & clutching spring to mind.
Hope you get her back soon

Yes it is.

As the chief workshop man said "The R75 is a lovely car... until something goes wrong... then she's a "female dog" to fix!" He went on to say that the only R75/MG's they see are those that no other garage can fix. Hence the two coming from London on Monday. (He already has two others waiting to be fixed with a similar problem, or so it seems).

At least he believes that they are heading toward the light at the end of the tunnel. I said "Let's hope it's not an on-coming train!" ;)

One thing he did say was that the ECU breaking down could cause a "cascade" effect through the systems of the car... I have no cause to doubt him, as he seems quite genuine on the 'phone, but is this possible? Or, compared to the number of 75's on the road versus the number of owners on the forum, is this is as rare a fault as it seems??

Andrew when replaced a Colleagues ECU due to Flooding,
Nothing else was damaged at all.
T4 and off it went so to speak.

I am just gobsmacked at all this.....:(

Good luck for Monday Andrew i have got every thing crossed

wow what an absolutely seat gripping story, I feel so sorry for you being let down week after week, hopefully it will be back to you very soon,

Never know when your well off, turn key engine starts........

Hope its soon sorted Andrew, let me know about the air bag bit if you need it

Absolutely OB:lol:

Met a chap with an 03 ZT T today, looking over the car (yes... I miss mine so much;)) And to MY horror both his Plenum drains were clogged with leaves!!

And such an easy task to keep clean............ :D

Anyway, back on thread..... I faxed the garage last night and told them that yours was available, so I'll see what they say on Monday /Tuesday/ Wednesday......................................... ................? :o

At 08.30hrs Sunday- Week 7 begins.......................

Another one saved then, hope you educated him?

Of course! :lol: And told him about the mods, the club, and the benefits of being a paid up member :D

Thanks for your thoughts..... I hope to get her back soon. I've not lost my faith in this being the right car for me. I spent weeks researching the car I was going to buy. And, finally settled on the R75. Being a Tourer was a bonus. I had 10 months of trouble free driving until this problem. I just hope that it is a one-off.

I know that I have a few more things to do to get her exactly the way I want her. Some of these are sitting in the kitchen waiting for her return:lol:

At least you can have faith that even when the worst happens with our cars there are people around willing to help get you sorted out...can't think of any other club's members that would go as far as these guys will to help a member out:D

I cant say or add to what Zeb has just said this is a wonderful club and worth every penny to be a paid member so come on you BLUE NAMES subscribe NOW

Hear! Hear! My thanks to all :bowdown::D

Andrew if I was in the situation that you find yourself I would be pulling my hair out mind that's if I had any

Gave up doing things like that a long time ago... it never helps the situation, and besides...... IT HURTS!! :lol:

My sincere thanks to Stocktake for his very kind assistance with the airbag controller, which should be with the garage tomorrow.

And so the saga continues,,,,, Will the heading be changed to "8 weeks...."?

Watch this space.........:confused:

Anybody got a spare R75 floating around their garage? :D:D

Well? :shrug:

I was about to ask the same thing Dave.

Evening Chris,

I know the Airbag controller arrived before 1pm Yesterday so hopefully progress has been made..



PS Doesn't Beaulieu seem a longtime ago now, I still remember your "confession".

Andrew we are all waiting with bated breath

Don't hold it for too long.. I rang them lunchtime today and they said the controller had not arrived :(

I told them that according to the PO it arrived before 1pm yesterday!!. He went to look........

I'll call them again tomorrow......

Bill now at over £1k (incl car hire) Does not include the injectors and pump:(:(:(

Watch this space............ Now 7.5 weeks.....

Sooooooooooooooooooooo annoying.

Don't know how you keep your cool, whatever your on it should be bottled and sold to keep peoples blood pressure down. :)

Went through a nasty divorce (ex's boyfriend tried to kill me in a car) I kept my cool then, so this is nothing :D

Besides ranting and raving won't speed things up, and won't do anything for my blood pressure!!:D:D

Maybe I should change my forum name to "Cool Dude" :D:D

Can Be arranged for you......:D

Nah! Think I'll stay as I am :D

But thanks anyway :lol::lol:

Thats good, I get use to Members names and at my age alterations confuse me. :D

In that case our secret plan to change your username would just cause chaos on all levels :D :getmecoat:

Chaos it certainly would,
and GG instigated all my posts disappearing once before. :D

Embarrassed today, took my car keys out to start a Plane! Oh Dear.

Andrew I think that you deserve a medal with going through with what you are at the moment and I am sure that all members of this club have you in their thoughts Maybe some good news is just around the corner

Thanks :) Calle dthe garage but they could not tell me anything today as the "boss" was away for the day :(

Told to call back tomorrow.......... Week 8 here we come:D

Doesn't sound a very Professional Outfit to me I'm afraid.

Afraid, I have to agree, Is the "boss" the only guy who knows if it runs or not? does he not confide in his staff? do they ever ring you to advise you of their progress. Need to keep the pressure on Andrew.:)

OOOOOoooo blood boiling time, single malt reqd.............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..................................................

Ah thats better :)

Unless the BOSS knows everything and dont want to share knowledge

The "Boss" was in quotes as I was referring to the Chief mechanic in their auto diesel department who has been working on the car has taken a day off. Probably one he is well entitled to :lol:

Surely thats how you stay the boss!

Oh well, Week 8 approaches with the certainty of night following day. Turns up the airbag control unit was not faulty. I suggested the passenger seat connections........

Next week they will try again, they've discovered the problem today, but need to order the part. Sorry guys, did not get the part number etc. Too resigned to my fate to care?:lol:

I admire your tenacity Andrew. I would have scrapped it by now.

Keep going and I'm sure it will be worth it.

...and they couldn't give you an Indication of the fault after all this time?
I do hope the Charges for Injectors and all the rest which were not required are not going to be attempted to be passed onto you.
Any member on here could keep swapping bits in the hope it works,
thats why you are paying er...experts?

Will have to alter to 8 weeks on Sunday. http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...cons/icon9.gif
This must be the longest repair in the History of the club.
All it did was stop running....would never go to Southampton again just in case It was something in the air, ;)
they have tried everything else. :getmecoat:

You should get an Award just for your patience and resolve.


Perhaps the Good fairy will fix it over the weekend. http://www.feebleminds-gifs.com/fairy-wand.gif

Don't forget to get the part back Andrew, keep it just in case anybody else needs it :)

Only if the garage pays time and a half!!:D
And, No, they don't work on weekends :(

I can't even get to see the car, she's 60+ miles away. In fact I have not really seen her since the day after the national meet!!!

Ce la vie...........

If you need a run down at all next week,
I'll try to fit a Day off around you if thats any help Andrew.