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davesd1 25th July 2020 12:51

Is this over priced?
 
I've been looking for around a month now and still struggling on prices,is this top dollar?
Thanks for any advice, much appreciated.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-MGF-ZT...y/333642227884

Mickyboy 25th July 2020 13:00

Judging by the fact that the brake pipe wasn’t done and just given a advisory I’d say you should factor in a brake pipe job, looks clean but all dealer cars do once cleaned, if your interested ask some questions like “when was the PCV filter last changed”? and watch the blank expression on their face when the realise you know more about these cars than they do.

A car is only worth what a person is willing to pay in my opinion.
Mick

Odd Job 25th July 2020 13:04

I paid 2k for mine, very similar spec, very similar mileage. That was a year ago.
63,000 miles on the clock at the time.

I suppose it's worth what anyone will pay for it.

I thought mine was worth the money, at the time. :duh:

clf 25th July 2020 13:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by davesd1 (Post 2827024)
I've been looking for around a month now and still struggling on prices,is this top dollar?
Thanks for any advice, much appreciated.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-MGF-ZT...y/333642227884

In my opinion, and it is only my opinion, it is above top dollar. I will explain my point of view, because again, my view is, if you can afford it, you like it, then is your money, then buy it. :}

My own, bought for what I though of as very top money 6 years ago from a friend, who has a mechanic he has been using for years, and the slightest noise, he took it to him, paying whatever it cost to sort it.

There are 4 differences stand out between my car and that car. The colour, that car is most popular colour of ZT (XPG grey), mine is the second most popular (starlight silver). Mine is an auto (which tends to command a slightly higher price). Mine had full leather (faced) seats, as opposed to the vinyl cloth on the ebay one. Lastly, that one is at a dealer, so therefore you will have at least some form of basic comeback for about 3 months. Mine being 62000 miles when I bought it, was £2500. What I paid for mine, makes me baulk sometimes both what it cost me, and when I compare to other cars out there. (Looking at the reg date, I would bet that it was made very close to the same time as mine too)

If there was no work needing done, for the next few years, then maybe. I am talking of suspension, clutch, full leather, even tyres, and was a rarer colour, then yes, I think would be close to being on the money in this current market. If you do drive it, watch the temp gauge, and see if it gets to halfway (which is still not an indicator of its operation). This will indicate a failed thermostat. There is a cheap but very effective work around for this, but straightaway, but that is a £250-300 bargaining point - as it is a labour intensive task to replace properly. Clutch work is the guts of £500, rear suspension, anything from £200-£1000. Sills rust at the rear, £200 per side to rectify correctly.

The current market is what dictates what is good value or not, and there will be great cars out there for sale now for less - mileage on these engines is not an issue. A good test on the integrity of a dealer selling a diesel one of these, is to ask ignorantly if the timing belt has been done recently. If they say yes, they are lying. They have a chain, which has a service life of 250,000 miles.

Have you looked into the for sale ads on this forum (which is traditionally where you would find top money, but usually well sorted cars)? However as I said at the beginning, it is your money, your desires and only you can really decide, but be ultra critical in terms of what work may be required, even down to stone chips and paint lacquer lol.

Have you seen the excellent Buyer's Guide HERE? It is a very worthwhile well written read.

Good luck with your search.

chris75 25th July 2020 14:30

It is my habit to defend the prices of our cars , but that one is over the top :eek:
Now , if it was a v6 ………...:}

coolguy 25th July 2020 14:57

Look at what else you can buy for that price in the second-hand market, and whilst it seems high for what I and many of you have paid in the past for such, I think it is about right.

myfirstrover 25th July 2020 15:24

Top money for an ordinary car , ok if you like grey

Richard1973 25th July 2020 15:54

Zenon, cruise & reversing sensors help as does the low mileage. Still don't see it at much more than 2k though, even from a garage.

davesd1 25th July 2020 19:57

Thanks for all of the replies,i'll go with the majority.The search continues, one in Gateshead,but not exactly 'round the corner.

Ched 26th July 2020 22:01

https://www.gumtree.com/p/mg/2006-mg...ual/1374257400

macafee2 27th July 2020 06:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by davesd1 (Post 2827099)
Thanks for all of the replies,i'll go with the majority.The search continues, one in Gateshead,but not exactly 'round the corner.

Just because it may be expansive I don't think you should ignore it. Will the dealer move on price?
Sometimes it is worth paying "over the top" to get what you want.

macafee2

ricardo65 27th July 2020 09:17

Why do people think it's overpriced and expensive it may be worth every penny it may not has anybody been to look at the car have we got use to picking these cars up for very little money that if a good clean example comes along its not worth the asking price I for one wouldn't hesitate in paying the right price for the right car whatever the marque

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Also would like to add what has colour got to do with the sale of the car if it ticks all the boxes it right for you 😊

davesd1 27th July 2020 10:57

Thanks for the replies,really appreciate it.I first started looking around a month ago and must have covered nearly everything that must be on sale at the moment.
Ched,i've looked at that a number of times and checked the MOT history, regarding the structure has put me off.
I'm looking for a diesel, 75 or ZT and from what i've read i shouldn't be put off too much by mileage.
I must admit the car i originally asked about does tick a lot of boxes,i just can't afford to get it wrong,at that price,it has to be right. I'm on here to listen to advice so feel free to give it,especially if you know the car.
Another reason is,with living down this neck of the woods,i'm prepared to travel ,but don't want to see a car that is unsuitable within 30 seconds flat.
Thanks again.

Mike Noc 27th July 2020 12:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricardo65 (Post 2827327)
Why do people think it's overpriced and expensive it may be worth every penny it may not has anybody been to look at the car have we got use to picking these cars up for very little money that if a good clean example comes along its not worth the asking price I for one wouldn't hesitate in paying the right price for the right car whatever the marque

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Also would like to add what has colour got to do with the sale of the car if it ticks all the boxes it right for you ��

Agree I'd pay the right price for exactly the car I wanted, but equally I wouldn't offer more than £2k for that one. :}

There is a going rate for the market with exceptional examples fetching more of course, but unless you have an agreed value insurance you could lose money big time if you pay over the odds and then have a shunt and get the car written off.

As for the colour, well if it weren't for the number plates you'd think the pictures were taken on black and white film - it's all various shades of grey. :getmecoat:








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Ched 27th July 2020 16:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by davesd1 (Post 2827344)
Thanks for the replies,really appreciate it.I first started looking around a month ago and must have covered nearly everything that must be on sale at the moment.
Ched,i've looked at that a number of times and checked the MOT history, regarding the structure has put me off.
I'm looking for a diesel, 75 or ZT and from what i've read i shouldn't be put off too much by mileage.
I must admit the car i originally asked about does tick a lot of boxes,i just can't afford to get it wrong,at that price,it has to be right. I'm on here to listen to advice so feel free to give it,especially if you know the car.
Another reason is,with living down this neck of the woods,i'm prepared to travel ,but don't want to see a car that is unsuitable within 30 seconds flat.
Thanks again.

I've just looked at that and I have no idea what that means, if the vehicle's structure is fractured then surely it needs some welding doing. :shrug:

Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories):
Vehicle structure is fractured but structural rigidity is not significantly reduced (6.1.1 (a) (i))

And looking on the mot site gives this answer.........

Category
(a) A main load-bearing structural member:

(i) fractured or deformed such that structural rigidity is significantly reduced
(ii) fractured or deformed such that steering or braking is likely to be adversely affected.

wraymond 27th July 2020 19:09

People start by looking out for a nice looking car with good history, eventually finding what seems to be nearest to their preference. Then they blind themselves to some of the practicalities and let their heart rule their head.

For instance, have you seen the number of diesels on the market lately? Certainly a lot more than this time last year. Already diesel fuel is rising higher than petrol and will continue, given the trend away from fossil fuel. Does that matter to you? You could possibly find taxation of them becoming unmanageable in the near future so factor that into your plans.

In short, do you see the car as short, medium or long term, then reconsider the price over that period. And, incidentally, also the depreciation of what it cost you to buy into versus other cars of a similar heritage.

tantallon 27th July 2020 19:13

Yes it is overpriced


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