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MarkS 10th April 2020 18:46

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Originally Posted by picky747 (Post 2805022)
They have THESE in Lidl at the moment,they connect to your phone by bluetooth.

[IMG]https://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/for...0504fea187.jpg[/IMG]

Looks very similar to a BM2 battery monitor on eBay for ~ £16.

MarkS 11th April 2020 08:18

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Originally Posted by macafee2 (Post 2804962)
MGJohn, what voltage dose the solar charger put out when disconnected and dose the voltage seem to pulse?

macafee2

If unconnected to a battery, the solar panel gives out between 0V (in darkness) and 18-22V in bright sunlight.

There is no reason that the voltage should pulse.

When connected to a battery, the 18-22 V in bright sunlight is 'clipped' by the battery to be between 12-13.8V, this keeps the charging voltage within acceptable limits.

WARNING: If you have a solar charger connected VIA THE CIGAR LIGHTER SOCKET, and you disconnect the battery (or any relevant fuse), this charging voltage is no longer 'clipped' by the battery, and MAY potentially rise to above 15V, (to 22V), 'potentially' damaging vehicle electronics.

So if you intend to disconnect the battery, or unplug fuses, it is a wise precaution to disconnect the solar charger from the cigar lighter socket FIRST.

FWIW, most solar chargers, when used in the latitudes of the UK, seem to give out approximately 1/2 the rated power, not what the manufactures may claim.

A 4W panel, giving 190mA for 6-8 hours, equates to 1.5Ah

MarkS 11th April 2020 09:29

In the northern hemisphere, the maximum charging power is obtained when the panel is facing between South East, and South West, ideally South.

If your windscreen is facing North, mount the panel on the side windows, it will make a BIG difference to the effectiveness.

If the solar panel isn't making a noticeable shadow, then it isn't generating a noticeable power !

If you want to see how solar panel generation varies throughout the day, checkout http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/, the red solar generation output for the UK (as well as nuclear, (combined cycle) gas turbine, coal, wind, and power imported from France, Holland, Ireland et al.

Dawn 14th April 2020 07:56

I have solar fitted to my Avensis now. The MG doesnt drain a lot as its unlocked in the garage and I have a full sized charger in there if needed. Its a brick garage with metal door so safe enough while I am home with the Avensis in front. Missing driving though.

-Joe 16th April 2020 00:19

Solar in car expert
 
I've had solar panels in my cars for 20 years.


In the Rover 75 I have fitted a glass monocrystaline 20Watt panel (£25). I installed this on the rear parcel shelf. In the engine bay lives a cheap PWM solar controller (£15). I use 5amp cable to connect everything.



Small panels are useless excepting on the very sunniest of days.



You must use a charge controller or you risk boiling! the car battery, acid gas will vent and corode your cars engine bay.



With my 20Watt panel I get all year round charging.
Battery never goes flat and always starts well even in winter.

Dawn 16th April 2020 06:07

My neighbours car wouldn't start yesterday. In the coming weeks I think many will be caught out!

COLVERT 7th December 2021 20:15

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Originally Posted by Heddy (Post 2803876)
Had to change my battery today, after seven and a half years. It was a Yuasa Silver with a 5 yr guarantee. Mine was end of life but many will just go flat due to short trips. Would be interesting to know how many miles are required to put back the power used to start the car, answers on a sanitised postcard.

Bit like asking--how long is a piece of string??---With the car it totally depends on how easy the engine starts.

COLVERT 7th December 2021 20:18

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Originally Posted by T-Cut (Post 2803887)
Only one mile in first gear, three miles in third or five to ten in top, depending on how fast you go.
TC

Won't make any difference really as the output of the alternator is regulated and will remain constant no matter how much you rev the engine.--:shocked:

COLVERT 7th December 2021 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Joe (Post 2806455)
I've had solar panels in my cars for 20 years.


In the Rover 75 I have fitted a glass monocrystaline 20Watt panel (£25). I installed this on the rear parcel shelf. In the engine bay lives a cheap PWM solar controller (£15). I use 5amp cable to connect everything.



Small panels are useless excepting on the very sunniest of days.



You must use a charge controller or you risk boiling! the car battery, acid gas will vent and corode your cars engine bay.



With my 20Watt panel I get all year round charging.
Battery never goes flat and always starts well even in winter.

You'll never boil a battery with a solar charger.---:icon_rolleyes:

COLVERT 7th December 2021 20:21

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Originally Posted by Dawn (Post 2806458)
My neighbours car wouldn't start yesterday. In the coming weeks I think many will be caught out!

True.--99% of the time because of poor maintenance.--:icon_cry:


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