Fuel Burning Heater query

Snowy · 7th April 2008, 08:48

Hi all. Could someone please explain to me what a Fuel Burning Heater actually is please? I seem to have one fitted on my '51 CDT. At least I do have the Webasto box that is shown in the corresponding How-To.

Do all the CDT(i)'s have these fitted? What do they actually do?

BigRuss · 7th April 2008, 09:26

Hi Snowy, all pre-project drive diesels have these, they are there to assisting heating the coolant in temperatures below 5 degrees C. Resulting in faster engine warm up times and the ability to heat the interior of the car in a fairly short time, otherwise on these engines it takes a long time for the engine temp to reach normal.

You can fit the car with a timer and/or remote to enable you to pre heat the engine and the interior. These were available as an option but can be retrofitted.

Russ

Snowy · 7th April 2008, 09:40

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Originally Posted by bigruss42

Hi Snowy, all pre-project drive diesels have these, they are there to assisting heating the coolant in temperatures below 5 degrees C. Resulting in faster engine warm up times and the ability to heat the interior of the car in a fairly short time, otherwise on these engines it takes a long time for the engine temp to reach normal.

You can fit the car with a timer and/or remote to enable you to pre heat the engine and the interior. These were available as an option but can be retrofitted.

Russ

Thanks for that Russ. Hmmmm.... the remote/timer retrofit sounds interesting - will have to do some digging about for info on that...

BigRuss · 7th April 2008, 10:14

Congratulations on becoming a "paid up" member of the club.

Les at SMC had some timers and they do come up on e-bay from time to time especially the german site, not many on there take Paypal though. But Webasto heater stuff ain't cheap.
The most difficult thing is sorting out the wiring. I've got the timer and the telestart and am now in the processs of sorting out a wiring harnesss from the various wiring diagrams I've got.

You would be more than welcome at the next Yorkshhire meet, don't know when it's going to be yet, probably after the national one.

Looking forward to seeing pictures of your car.

Russ

CDTi · 7th April 2008, 10:20

Wiring diagram here:

BigRuss · 7th April 2008, 10:52

Yes, I've got that one but I don't have the "Y" cable so I'm going to have to make my own up. Also that diagram doesn't have details to run the ATC to enable you to defrost the car, just a reference to the heater relay.

Russ

CDTi · 7th April 2008, 11:06

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Originally Posted by bigruss42

Yes, I've got that one but I don't have the "Y" cable so I'm going to have to make my own up. Also that diagram doesn't have details to run the ATC to enable you to defrost the car, just a reference to the heater relay.

Russ

I'm sure you know that you can get those Y cables on ebay.de, but they are very expensive. Should be easy enough to make one up yourself.

My car has the manual heater controls so its a bit easier to do the parking heater. I hope to use a changeover relay and so not need any diodes i.e. the relay NC will connect the heater as normal and will be energised by the FBH to connect 12V to the blower.

jt002e2762 · 7th April 2008, 17:01

Hi CDTi, Thanks very much Mate for posting the wiring diagram. Great info and addition to all the other bits about the FBH. Must get round to sorting mine out. Cheers, JRT

7th April 2008, 08:48	#1
Snowy Avid contributor R75 Tourer - CDT(116) - Conn SE - Zircon Silver Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near Manchester Posts: 218 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Fuel Burning Heater query Hi all. Could someone please explain to me what a Fuel Burning Heater actually is please? I seem to have one fitted on my '51 CDT. At least I do have the Webasto box that is shown in the corresponding How-To. Do all the CDT(i)'s have these fitted? What do they actually do?

7th April 2008, 09:26	#2
BigRuss Premium Trader 75 CDT Tourer,2.5 Launch Saloon, Omipro MG/Rover (T4) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Liversedge, West Yorkshire Posts: 5,420 Thanks: 1,105 Thanked 1,340 Times in 661 Posts	Hi Snowy, all pre-project drive diesels have these, they are there to assisting heating the coolant in temperatures below 5 degrees C. Resulting in faster engine warm up times and the ability to heat the interior of the car in a fairly short time, otherwise on these engines it takes a long time for the engine temp to reach normal. You can fit the car with a timer and/or remote to enable you to pre heat the engine and the interior. These were available as an option but can be retrofitted. Russ __________________ Replacement Key Service http://https://the75andztclub.co.uk/...d.php?t=244732 Full T4 Testbook diagnostics available. Diesel ECU repair and replacement. Options enabled or disabled as required. Diesel X-Power 135 and "160", Rover 1.8T 150 to 160 MG 160 V6 to 177 upgrades available P.M. for details.

7th April 2008, 10:14	#4
BigRuss Premium Trader 75 CDT Tourer,2.5 Launch Saloon, Omipro MG/Rover (T4) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Liversedge, West Yorkshire Posts: 5,420 Thanks: 1,105 Thanked 1,340 Times in 661 Posts	Congratulations on becoming a "paid up" member of the club. Les at SMC had some timers and they do come up on e-bay from time to time especially the german site, not many on there take Paypal though. But Webasto heater stuff ain't cheap. The most difficult thing is sorting out the wiring. I've got the timer and the telestart and am now in the processs of sorting out a wiring harnesss from the various wiring diagrams I've got. You would be more than welcome at the next Yorkshhire meet, don't know when it's going to be yet, probably after the national one. Looking forward to seeing pictures of your car. Russ __________________ Replacement Key Service http://https://the75andztclub.co.uk/...d.php?t=244732 Full T4 Testbook diagnostics available. Diesel ECU repair and replacement. Options enabled or disabled as required. Diesel X-Power 135 and "160", Rover 1.8T 150 to 160 MG 160 V6 to 177 upgrades available P.M. for details.

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CDTi This is my second home No longer in the MGR club Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tipperary Posts: 3,933 Thanks: 35 Thanked 51 Times in 35 Posts	Wiring diagram here: __________________ 'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.

7th April 2008, 10:52	#6
BigRuss Premium Trader 75 CDT Tourer,2.5 Launch Saloon, Omipro MG/Rover (T4) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Liversedge, West Yorkshire Posts: 5,420 Thanks: 1,105 Thanked 1,340 Times in 661 Posts	Yes, I've got that one but I don't have the "Y" cable so I'm going to have to make my own up. Also that diagram doesn't have details to run the ATC to enable you to defrost the car, just a reference to the heater relay. Russ __________________ Replacement Key Service http://https://the75andztclub.co.uk/...d.php?t=244732 Full T4 Testbook diagnostics available. Diesel ECU repair and replacement. Options enabled or disabled as required. Diesel X-Power 135 and "160", Rover 1.8T 150 to 160 MG 160 V6 to 177 upgrades available P.M. for details.

7th April 2008, 17:01	#8
jt002e2762 Loves to post Ex 2.0 ltr CDT Conn Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Whickham Posts: 421 Thanks: 14 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts	Fbh Hi CDTi, Thanks very much Mate for posting the wiring diagram. Great info and addition to all the other bits about the FBH. Must get round to sorting mine out. Cheers, JRT