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Old 24th April 2024, 12:11   #1
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When I did mine prior to the garage changing these I dowsed the nuts, the captive nuts and the bolts with good quality penetrating fluid. I kept doing this over a number of days. When it came to changing them the mechanic that did these told me that they came apart reasonably well - he showed me the original nuts and bolts and although they had been on the car about 17 years they could have been used again, although I replaced with new. The captive nuts are accessed via a hole in the subframe

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Captive nuts are square and reside in a pocket on the subframe, and as you point out are accessed through an hole.
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Old 24th April 2024, 17:38   #2
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Captive nuts are square and reside in a pocket on the subframe, and as you point out are accessed through an hole.
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Good pics Steve - tell the story about accessing them very well - was once told a picture often replaces a thousand words!
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My rear arms fought Kevin in Wickford every inch of the way. And seeing as you're in North Wales l would have thought you'd have used Jules too.
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Old 25th April 2024, 07:47   #4
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This pic from Steve shows the nut?



The nut is NOT welded in place, but held in a formed slot, of folded THIN steel. If you have to put any significant force on removing the bolt the folded steel will giveway.
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Old 25th April 2024, 07:58   #5
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What's the course of action if the captive nut lets go.
Does a new one need to be welded in.
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Old 25th April 2024, 14:47   #6
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What's the course of action if the captive nut lets go.
Does a new one need to be welded in.
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The nuts are held in a cage, it is the cage that lets go.
The cage if not to badly damaged can be welded back in place and the nuts reused.
the sub frame needs to come off.

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You can access the pocket nut while the subframe is on the car, therefore you can get some plusgas on the thread, and also tep the sides in on the pocket so it grips the nut more if it's starting to or feels like it will not move easy.

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Maybe even add some liquid steel mix and let that set to aid removal of the bolt.
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